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NBN Rollout Scrapped

arguments about lipstick on pig still doesn't change the fact the pig is still a pig.
If that's a reference to FTTP vs MTM, I refer you back to the above,
Well my mate, who has fibre to the home has found out what the problem is, it bogs down at high usage times.
He can't find out why, because he only bought the low 12mb/s offer.
Will keep you updated, as I find out more info.

My bolds.
 

The thing is, Mandurah was rolled out in the very early phase, so the issue isn't party specific.

There are obvious problems and it is fibre to the house, so IMO, it is a $80billion joke.

Which actually isn't funny when you see the Government debt.
It becomes more and more apparent, that the NBN was a vote chasing excercise, at the taxpayers expense.IMO
 


You need to familiarise yourself with how the basic system works to understand what fibre means and it doesn't mean it bypasses the wholesaler or retailer.

But yes considering the whole thing is being paid for with bond issues, one would have thought the money would have been spent more wisely. It certainly was an election bait, but people are starting to wake up to the ruse.
 
You need to familiarise yourself with how the basic system works to understand what fibre means and it doesn't mean it bypasses the wholesaler or retailer.
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He's simply confirming the residence in question is FTTP.
 
The fact is, it is a really big spend, for very little return. IMO

When you consider, a gas pipeline from the NW of W.A, to connect to the Eastern States could have been installed.
A water pipeline from the NW of W.A, that could supply irrigation throughout the Pilbara, could have been installed.
Dams and irrigation throughout North Queensland, and a high speed train connecting Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne.
For less money, than the NBN, which really isn't supplying something we didn't have, it's just replacing it.
It is really a National disgrace, and shows how politicians are more interested in egos, than Nation building.IMO
 
The fact is, it is a really big spend, for very little return. IMO
That is the case and the problem NBN is attempting to overcome with its CVC pricing model.

THE RSP's I suspect are skimping on the CVC capacity they are purchasing as they know NBN and the government of the day will be held most responsible for speeds on the network. NBN has been shifting with revised CVC discount models and that process is continuing,

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...s/news-story/6699c4a288dc2a402efda86cf93153d2

Whether due to reliability or cost (or both), there will be an impact on the proportion that retain a landline connection through NBN. Ultimately, the current or a future government is going to have to write down its investment in the NBN and that will be an ugly day for the budget.
 
When the NBN was begun there were several considerations made:

1) the $27.5bn debt was fully funded by issuing bonds
2) the paydown was forecast 2034
3) the bond rate was ~4%
4) the ROI once operational 7%
5) Telstra backbenched, for fear of what has subsequently come to pass.
 

I think the NBN was an inevitability and reflected a need to put in place a future economy, free of being a mining pit of the world. I don't think any of us saw the end of the boom coming so soon, even the miners themselves.

As with any major project in Australia's history, the govts are the only organisation able to fund them, traditionally through borrowing. Labor has a strong track record of major industry and infrastructure spend and seems to like starting legacy projects while in office....NBN would have been one of those before political games made it a shadow of it's original form.

I think the real frustration that is fermenting in the nation is the realisation they may have been tricked into believing the govt's spiel and the weight of evidence does point to a poorly constructed network that has people without connection for weeks/months. They are twigging to the electioneering myths about speeds e.g. able to simultaneously stream 5 movies is just out and out lies.

It's not like we weren't all warned by the people who actually know about networks, technology, etc that changing it to a hybrid system would end up making it a bitsa pup....and more expensive pup at that.
 
I'm wondering if school children shouldn't be made to attend a "factual" course on networks so the political spin could be filtered out of the conversation. A real course that is free of habitual ghosts of Abbott past, easy grab acronyms and sanctimonious twits.....something that agrees with my point of view.

Tip for those who want to get the fastest throughput inside their boundary when lumbered with a sh1tty old copper telephone cable = get your installer to parallel up the redundant wires to decrease the impedance.

What would this guy know about the NBN ... did he ask Abbott, Turnbull and any rusted on LNP voter first before making stuff up:
https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2017/07/...-would-be-just-as-cheap-as-fibre-to-the-curb/
 
Posted yesterday on Whirlpool:


https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=2655231
 
This has gotta hurt the LNP flag waivers, although it's probably Bill Shorten's fault, that and pink batts:

https://www.itnews.com.au/news/nbn-...dium=newsletter&utm_campaign=daily_newsletter

 
http://www.afr.com/technology/web/n...-on-300m-in-new-office-leases-20170803-gxoo7m
 
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