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NBN Rollout Scrapped

Sometimes it's a good idea to read more than the headline before being a critic. The observatory isn't on the fixed line network.



https://www.google.com.au/maps/plac...c7d3e5ca2b8ab55!8m2!3d-31.220588!4d149.190378

The satellite system is part of the NBN and it's obviously not up to the required standard for this application.

So much for connecting remote areas to the NBN if you can't even do a teleconference with it. It's making us a laughing stock and will hamper future investment.
 
The satellite system is part of the NBN and it's obviously not up to the required standard for this application.

So much for connecting remote areas to the NBN if you can't even do a teleconference with it. It's making us a laughing stock and will hamper future investment.
The origin of the satellite network dates from Labor's time in office.
 
The origin of the satellite network dates from Labor's time in office.

Jeez doc, don't say that, Rumpole and Tisme think the LNP are responsible for Labors brain fart.

Everyone is still wondering, why labor rolled it out to suburbs, where people couldn't afford internet in the first place.:D

It was rolled out to a group of units I'm involved with 3 years ago, I have'nt connected next door hasn't connected and the old lady in the end unit is now in a nursing home. So she hasn't connected.

It was dumb policy, rolled out to inappropriate locations with resulting poor uptake.

Why they didn't roll it out to the CBD's first, is beyond belief and now we are expected to take Labor seriously.

Andrews in Victoria has shown, they've learnt sod all, union hacks given free reign = disaster.IMO
 
The origin of the satellite network dates from Labor's time in office.

Ah yes, the old LNP mantra.

BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR.

When will this government take responsibility ? Never I think. It's always all LABOR'S FAULT.
 
Jeez doc, don't say that, Rumpole and Tisme think the LNP are responsible for Labors brain fart.

Everyone is still wondering, why labor rolled it out to suburbs, where people couldn't afford internet in the first place.:D

It was rolled out to a group of units I'm involved with 3 years ago, I have'nt connected next door hasn't connected and the old lady in the end unit is now in a nursing home. So she hasn't connected.

It was dumb policy, rolled out to inappropriate locations with resulting poor uptake.

Why they didn't roll it out to the CBD's first, is beyond belief and now we are expected to take Labor seriously.

Andrews in Victoria has shown, they've learnt sod all, union hacks given free reign = disaster.IMO

How do you know what my thoughts are?

Just because you don't like a product doesn't mean the product is a dud....it points to your bias, poor choices, slavishness to the LNP and belligerence to change. This must be true because I said it, just like you say untrue things as if they are fact.... of course it could just be that you ARE A TROLL!!! (cue Noco LOL)

Your post is like a cliche : anti NBN, anti Labor, anti union, anti Andrews, anti competition, anti technology, anti Tisme, anti Rumpole...... there is nothing redeeming about your spit and vitriol, which kind of makes me think you have issues of self esteem... no really I think you have some pretty concerning baggage that will require getting over your negative self before you can accept adult guidance.

We're here for you sp, you can count on the elders to guide you through adolescence into manhood, leadership, benevolence and all those meritorious traits that makes a man a man's man. ... the kind of man that forgives stupidity of youth and looks only to enrich culture and manners.

Atta boy,

:p:
 
Your town/suburb on the horizon?

Of course the problem is Bill Shorten has picked the wrong houses to run light pipes past, even if there is only FTTN and copper connection available way off in the future for grandmothers who hate fibre and prefer white bread. And they say other people are dumbarses ... really Bill, you and those unions ,,, we need a real communications minister like ...say the inventor of the internet Malcolm Turnbull :rolleyes:

use ctrlF to search

https://www.telstrawholesale.com.au/content/dam/tw/nbn/Documents/rollout-list.pdf
 
Ah yes, the old LNP mantra.

BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR. BLAME LABOR.

When will this government take responsibility ? Never I think. It's always all LABOR'S FAULT.
The satellite network dates from Labor's time in office. That's a simple fact you could have found out for yourself prior to posting.

You're also the one complaining about it.
 
The satellite network dates from Labor's time in office. That's a simple fact you could have found out for yourself prior to posting.

You're also the one complaining about it.

I'm complaining about the Turnbull government promising to "fix" Labor's so called stuff up, and then failing to do so.
 
I'm complaining about the Turnbull government promising to "fix" Labor's so called stuff up, and then failing to do so.
The satellite program was well advanced by the time of the Turnbull government. The first satellite was launched on October 1 last year, shortly after Malcolm became PM.

You can stop digging now. In fact, I strongly encourage you to do so. You're way out of your depth on this topic.
 
The satellite program was well advanced by the time of the Turnbull government. The first satellite was launched on October 1 last year, shortly after Malcolm became PM.

You can stop digging now. In fact, I strongly encourage you to do so. You're way out of your depth on this topic.

One doesn't need to dig very far to uncover the dirt that Turnbull's NBN is. If you don't believe me, try the Fin Review.

http://www.afr.com/technology/web/nbn/malcolm-turnbulls-broadband-plan-is-incoherent-20160928-grq4oe
 
How do you know what my thoughts are?

Just because you don't like a product doesn't mean the product is a dud....it points to your bias, poor choices, slavishness to the LNP and belligerence to change. This must be true because I said it, just like you say untrue things as if they are fact.... of course it could just be that you ARE A TROLL!!! (cue Noco LOL)

Your post is like a cliche : anti NBN, anti Labor, anti union, anti Andrews, anti competition, anti technology, anti Tisme, anti Rumpole...... there is nothing redeeming about your spit and vitriol, which kind of makes me think you have issues of self esteem... no really I think you have some pretty concerning baggage that will require getting over your negative self before you can accept adult guidance.

We're here for you sp, you can count on the elders to guide you through adolescence into manhood, leadership, benevolence and all those meritorious traits that makes a man a man's man. ... the kind of man that forgives stupidity of youth and looks only to enrich culture and manners.

Atta boy,

:p:

My post is accurate, yours is verbosity, I'm not trolling just making a point.

It would be great if you tried doing the same, rather than waffling on endlessly.:p:

I'm sure if you applied your obvious talent to adding to the debate, rather than sniping at people, you could enrich the debate.
You just appear fixated on the LNP verses the ALP, which is your prerogative, but it doesn't add much to the debate, just titillates those who agree and further alienates those who don't.

My post gave examples of the NBN rollout in Mandurah W.A, with the highest unemployment rate in Australia, yet one of the first roll out areas.

Andrews in Victoria, is now talking about a ring road around Melbourne, when he ridiculed the idea pre election.

We would love you to join in the debate, Tisme, rather than trying to control and dominate it.
Ata boy, were here for you also.
 
You've hit bedrock with that one.

At least I quotes a piece by an identified individual unlike your quote of #4002 which was by "The Australian Financial Review". Why did they hide behind their masthead ?

And if you wish to dispute Michelle Rowland's opinion, please do so instead of just kicking the author in the shin.
 
At least I quotes a piece by an identified individual unlike your quote of #4002 which was by "The Australian Financial Review". Why did they hide behind their masthead ?

And if you wish to dispute Michelle Rowland's opinion, please do so instead of just kicking the author in the shin.
What I posted back then was an opinion piece by the AFR. What you posted above and presented as the view of the paper was nothing of the sort. It was an opinion piece by the opposition spokeswoman for communications. If you can go back one page in this thread, you can read to the end of the articles you post.

Don't stay up too late tonight. We've strayed far enough from your original flawed criticism of the government in relation to the satellite network.
 
I am in a peri-urban suburb of Sydney and finally the NBN FTTN has been rolled out here.

7 years ago I could not even get ADSL. I had to go wireless and pay high costs. We were on what they call a "pair gain" system which could only allow a few ADSL connections.

Then Telstra must have laid some extra cables and we got ADSL2+. That was such a step up and it was quite reliable.

Today I had my NBN FTTN connected and I am getting very good speeds and I love it. I am grateful that the Government is building this network. I only wish that they had stuck to the original NBN that Labor Planned which would have been much better quality and future proofed.

My old Monthly plan was 100 GB for $76 p/m. Under the new NBN plan I get better speeds and it is unlimited and I have access to a VOIP fixed landline if I want it. (calls costs are extra but I do not use the land line.) So even saving money for a better service.

So all in all I am very happy with my NBN, glad that we got something even though it's not the best we could have had, cheers.
 
I am in a peri-urban suburb of Sydney and finally the NBN FTTN has been rolled out here.

7 years ago I could not even get ADSL. I had to go wireless and pay high costs. We were on what they call a "pair gain" system which could only allow a few ADSL connections.

Then Telstra must have laid some extra cables and we got ADSL2+. That was such a step up and it was quite reliable.

Today I had my NBN FTTN connected and I am getting very good speeds and I love it. I am grateful that the Government is building this network. I only wish that they had stuck to the original NBN that Labor Planned which would have been much better quality and future proofed.

My old Monthly plan was 100 GB for $76 p/m. Under the new NBN plan I get better speeds and it is unlimited and I have access to a VOIP fixed landline if I want it. (calls costs are extra but I do not use the land line.) So even saving money for a better service.

So all in all I am very happy with my NBN, glad that we got something even though it's not the best we could have had, cheers.

Bill, if you don't mind me asking, did you stay with Telstra
 
Bill, if you don't mind me asking, did you stay with Telstra

No, I changed over to TPG FTTN 25/5 plan. That costs me $69.99 P/M. After some initial connection problems it got sorted and now I am getting download speeds of between 23 to 24 MBPS. The tech guy said my line would handle 61 MBPS downloads max.

I just had a thought about my first ADSL connection about 16 years ago, cost me $86 p/m for 1 GB at a 1 MBPS download speed plus line rental. So costs have come down about 30% over the years.
 
No, I changed over to TPG FTTN 25/5 plan. That costs me $69.99 P/M. After some initial connection problems it got sorted and now I am getting download speeds of between 23 to 24 MBPS. The tech guy said my line would handle 61 MBPS downloads max.

I just had a thought about my first ADSL connection about 16 years ago, cost me $86 p/m for 1 GB at a 1 MBPS download speed plus line rental. So costs have come down about 30% over the years.


Should be able to live stream a widescreen movie with medium resolution without stutter.

I have my fingers crossed for a house hookup so I can go the 4k tv initially and then the UHD.

I have my houses and commercials networked, not only the computers, but the stereo amps, tvs, dvds, NVR and POI camera systems, the security access systems, intercomms, etc and use web/browser based access to the automation systems, so the NBN will be good for me. I have been cisco ready for like forevva, but I never use the voip phones; been tempted by the beckoning screen, but have resisted.
 
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