1. The "$60bn" difference has already been exposed as BS. http://delimiter2.com.au/just-plain-wrong-full-refutation-coalitions-94bn-nbn-costing/
2. Around 60% of NBN signups have already chosen 50/20 and 100/40Mbps speeds. Well above those available on either ADSL or even FTTN. Especially upload (you know, the bit you need for "exporting".)
3. The vast majority of NBN costs are construction, not equipment. So it will be vastly more expensive in 10 years, not cheaper.
1. I can't access that article.
2. They choose it, but do they NEED it. Your argument is that people want to download pr0n faster, but does it mean we export more.
3. You have limited understanding of investing? What if I invested $30 billion into roads, rail, ports, farms etc that actually show a ROI to invest in 10 years time. Surely it would be more intelligent to do that.
MW
Mr Fraudband caught out telling porkies yet again
http://www.itnews.com.au/News/359925,visionstream-hits-back-at-turnbulls-nbn-stop-work-claim.aspx
A spokesperson for Turnbull later clarified work hadn’t stopped completely but had been “very slow and patchy”.
The spokesperson said the company was currently undertaking “construction of fibre servicing area modules (FSAM) in Launceston, a large amount of aerial cabling across the state, and is issuing tenders for new construction civil works as work packages are released by NBN.”
It conceded it had suffered delays to work volumes as a result of unsafe asbestos handling discovered during Telstra pit remediation, but said it was working with both the telco and NBN Co to commence construction of works as it is deemed safe to do so.
Visionstream’s Tasmanian rollout has been dogged by pay disputes with subcontractors, which claim to be owed up to $15 million. The disputes allegedly forced subcontractors to let go of 200 workers due to an inability to pay them.
Well with the Cherry Picking in play for the cities the NBN is not going to have the income to cross subsidise the country areas without ongoing budget support. Who'd want to be involved with that kind of debacle?
Former directors of NBN Co paid more than $110,000 in consulting fees to Coalition-linked lobby group Bespoke Approach in a failed bid to retain their jobs past the federal election.
It turns out that the NBN's former directors were somewhat keen to stay.
http://www.afr.com/p/technology/nbn_directors_spent_to_save_skins_6rN4q7YRZ7DBUHOwk7PXPI
1. Well, it explains why the Coalition's "$94bn" claims were BS.
2. Does it matter? Who decides what is a "need" and what is a "want"? If they are choosing 50 and 100 speeds, then they are contributing more to the NBN's revenue, and therefore its ROI.
3. The NBN is projected to earn a 7% ROI. And what is to say that putting $30bn into ports/rail/farms would earn a larger ROI? Adelaide-Darwin rail link, anyone?
It's not so good for you.Good for them.
Well, Conroy admits they underestimated the enormity of the project, from a construction perspective.
Anyone who has had anything to do with major construction projects, knew that.:1zhelp:
http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/govern...-ambitious-stephen-conroy-20131011-hv244.html
Former communications minister Stephen Conroy has conceded construction targets for the national broadband network were "overly ambitious" and overestimated the capacity of the construction industry.
The most stunning admission is that it's not all due to drawn out negotiations with Telstra and the asbestos issue.
In the video link above, their ideological nature of their decisions is laid bare with Stephen Conroy's comments on MDU's and the rollout in Tasmania.You can't knock them for having a grandiose plan, just the pre planning and analysis was lacking.
If they had applied a logical approach to it rather than an ideological approach, they would have had a more support and more sucess.IMO
They should have structured the roll out so high volume commercial users were connected first, their usage would have given an instant return on capital.
This could have then helped subsidise the roll out cost to second tier commercial.
Then the really expensive roll out to the houses would at least be assisted by the first and second tier consumers.
IMO the problem with Labor is, they put the plan, before the funding model.
Then they expect everyone to accept that they aren't responsible for the cost blow out.
The NBN has a poor ROI at its current poor delivery by a bunch of incompetents.
3. You are assuming rollout is on time (not at the moment) on budget (not at the moment) and will continue (not likely.
Stop living in disneyland.
The NBN is over.
The NBN has a poor ROI at its current poor delivery by a bunch of incompetents.
The NBN is not NEEDED, it is merely wanted.
MW
Which is why I have been scratching my head...Why not roll out the NBN in the most populated areas first, to get cash flowing back into the coffers?
Madness
It's not over, it's just (probably) being scaled back to obsolete FTTN technology, which will have to be replaced in 5 or 10 years at more cost, and probably cost 3-4 times more in annual opex. Oh well, it's only money.
Need v Want is a matter of opinion, not fact.
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Your line speed is 12.06 Mbps (12061 kbps). Your download speed is 1.47 MB/s (1508 KB/s).
With regard to the copper, my download speed on ADSL is as follows;
Estimated copper length from exchange: ~ 1.8km.
http://www.ozspeedtest.com/bandwidth-test/
Which is why I have been scratching my head...Why not roll out the NBN in the most populated areas first, to get cash flowing back into the coffers?
Madness
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