NBN Rollout Scrapped

Knobby22 · 7 August 2013

I don't mind seeing Rudds head being removed (figuratively) however I don't like Murdoch claiming it.
He is no longer an Australian citizen. He should keep his nose out of our affairs.

Did you know that in 1975 the reporters of the Australian went on strike because of what they saw as outrageously biased coverage of the election campaign? Wouldn't happen now.

Calliope · 7 August 2013

Knobby22 said:
I don't mind seeing Rudds head being removed (figuratively) however I don't like Murdoch claiming it.
He is no longer an Australian citizen. He should keep his nose out of our affairs.

Did you know that in 1975 the reporters of the Australian went on strike because of what they saw as outrageously biased coverage of the election campaign? Wouldn't happen now.

Yes I will never forgive The Murdoch press for favouring Rudd over Howard in 2007, but i guess it made you happy.

Jonathan Holmes writing for your favourite tabloid The Age, doesn't share your conspiracy theory:

Your theory:

Why Murdoch wants Rudd to lose the coming federal election is not merely political, it is commercial. News Corp hates the government's national broadband network. The company has formed a view that it poses a threat to the business model of by far its most important asset in Australia, the Foxtel cable TV monopoly it jointly owns with Telstra

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Holmes's opinion;

But what’s in it for Rupert? What deals has he cut with Tony Abbott, in return for his newspapers’ support?

On the very day that Kevin Rudd called the election, Fairfax columnist Paul Sheehan ventured a suggestion in The Sunday Age. It’s all to do with Labor’s NBN, he told us. ‘’News Corp views this as a threat to the business models of its most important asset, Foxtel.’’…

In fact, [the Coalition’s] fibre-to-the-node system may be a more serious threat to Foxtel, because [it’s] promising to get it into our homes faster…

I reckon the attempt to identify an obvious quid pro quo is misconceived. In his 2011 book Rupert Murdoch: An Investigation of Political Power, David McKnight persuasively argued that the traditional view of him is wrong: he doesn’t just back winners, or play politics solely to benefit his commercial interests…

Murdoch, argues McKnight, plays politics from conviction… He’s always liked to think of himself as an anti-establishment radical.

orr · 7 August 2013

Calliope said:
Yes I will never forgive The Murdoch press for favouring Rudd over Howard in 2007, but i guess it made you happy.

Jonathan Holmes writing for your favourite tabloid The Age, doesn't share your conspiracy theory:

Your theory:
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Holmes's opinion;

Anything else come to mind as unforgivable/criminal from Murdoch?

Capacity and speed , Calliope... Concepts tragically beyond the horizon of your understanding. But not beyond the future understanding of Murdoch's current costumer base... Did you buy into Netflix at any time in the past, by any chance? Or is it more likely when here the name 'Un-blockus', do you go straight to your box of 'Movicol'? .

db94 · 8 August 2013

http://www.afr.com/p/business/companies/nbn_to_miss_target_for_rollout_XInJGPQsAGEsJxgEcAKrbP

Calliope · 8 August 2013

orr said:
Anything else come to mind as unforgivable/criminal from Murdoch?

Capacity and speed , Calliope... Concepts tragically beyond the horizon of your understanding. But not beyond the future understanding of Murdoch's current costumer base... Did you buy into Netflix at any time in the past, by any chance? Or is it more likely when here the name 'Un-blockus', do you go straight to your box of 'Movicol'? .

What's this guy on about??? Apart from hating Murdoch he doesn't make much sense. Perhaps the Murdoch haters should start a new thread.

Knobby22 · 8 August 2013

Calliope said:
Holmes's opinion;

Murdoch, argues McKnight, plays politics from conviction… He’s always liked to think of himself as an anti-establishment radical.

He was once. Now he is the establishment. Sorry for thread drift.

drsmith · 8 August 2013

db94 said:
http://www.afr.com/p/business/companies/nbn_to_miss_target_for_rollout_XInJGPQsAGEsJxgEcAKrbP

Labor would have been hoping future rollout skeletons stayed in the closet until after the election. For them, it's now a retreat to the next line of defence.

Telstra recently stopped work at a number of NBN sites, after workers found asbestos in some of the company's pits. This had caused a "short-term delay", Mr Albanese said.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...ays-says-anthony-albanese-20130808-2rhmq.html

Calliope · 8 August 2013

Knobby22 said:
He was once. Now he is the establishment. Sorry for thread drift.

Allan is a man widely known inside News Corp as Col Pot, a play on the name of the Cambodian genocidal dictator. He is News Corp's most feared flamethrower in a company of flamethrowers. He has been sent to Australia by Rupert Murdoch himself.

As a matter of interest, this guy you referred to is the same Col Allan who took an inebriated Rudd to Scores nightclub in Manhattan to watch naked dancers. That was when Rudd was hobnobbing with Murdoch.

Knobby22 · 8 August 2013

Calliope said:
As a matter of interest, this guy you referred to is the same Col Allan who took an inebriated Rudd to Scores nightclub in Manhattan to watch naked dancers. That was when Rudd was hobnobbing with Murdoch.

Doesn't surprise me. Yes. I bet he got pictures also.
He went there to prostrate himself in front of his lord and master and was suitably betrayed.
I wonder how many other politicians Murdoch has pictures of.

drsmith · 8 August 2013

The current Rupy rage from Kevin Rudd could well be a distraction from further rollout delays with the NBN as reported in today's Fairfax press.

drsmith · 13 August 2013

The great debate.

Anthony Albanese vs Malcolm Turnbull on Lateline.

http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2013/s3824057.htm

bellenuit · 13 August 2013

bellenuit

drsmith said:
The great debate.

Anthony Albanese vs Malcolm Turnbull on Lateline.

http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2013/s3824057.htm

I was very disappointed by Alberici's lack of understanding of what was being discussed. She asked both parties to justify their quoted cost figures and additionally of Turnbull his costing of Labor's plan, but didn't seem to understand that they figures she was asking them to justify were NET Costs. She continually interrupted Turnbull when he tried to explain how his revenue calculation, a component of Net Costs, for Labor's NBN was substantially less than Labor estimated, saying almost insultingly that costs were a different thing to revenues. Costs are, but net costs, which are costs less revenue, aren't.

She didn't come across to me as biased to either side, but purely as lacking in understanding of what she was asking.

Calliope · 14 August 2013

Rudd's three biggest ballzups; Budget Boats Broadband

Broadband: what could there possibly be to hide?

IF NBN Co is being run by the book, an updated corporate plan would have been sitting on the Communications Minister's desk for six weeks.

If Anthony Albanese was telling the truth on the ABC's Lateline program on Monday, and this vital infrastructure program is going splendidly, he must be itching to release it and silence the scurrilous claim by the opposition that the NBN is running almost three times over budget and five years late. Kevin Rudd would surely relish the chance to remind a grateful nation of his great futuristic legacy, this visionary nation-building scheme, this harbinger of the digital revolution, the backbone of the digital renaissance, driver of innovation, gateway to the information universe and liberator of dreams that was started on his watch. Yet Mr Albanese tells us that the report will not see the light of day until after the election. Does anyone smell a rat?

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opi...sibly-be-to-hide/story-e6frg71x-1226696612564

sails · 14 August 2013

Calliope said:
Rudd's three biggest ballzups; Budget Boats Broadband

Broadband: what could there possibly be to hide?

IF NBN Co is being run by the book, an updated corporate plan would have been sitting on the Communications Minister's desk for six weeks.

If Anthony Albanese was telling the truth on the ABC's Lateline program on Monday, and this vital infrastructure program is going splendidly, he must be itching to release it and silence the scurrilous claim by the opposition that the NBN is running almost three times over budget and five years late. Kevin Rudd would surely relish the chance to remind a grateful nation of his great futuristic legacy, this visionary nation-building scheme, this harbinger of the digital revolution, the backbone of the digital renaissance, driver of innovation, gateway to the information universe and liberator of dreams that was started on his watch. Yet Mr Albanese tells us that the report will not see the light of day until after the election. Does anyone smell a rat?

Click to expand...

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opi...sibly-be-to-hide/story-e6frg71x-1226696612564

does anything NOT smell like a rat with this labor mob?

Seems to be nothing but smoke and mirrors. Fiscal disaster for 6 years and now they want us to believe they have a "new way". Hiding documents until after the election is simply more of the devious old way, imo.

drsmith · 14 August 2013

Re: bellenuit

bellenuit said:
I was very disappointed by Alberici's lack of understanding of what was being discussed.

Malcolm's Turnbull's frustration at the level at which she wanted to conduct the discussion was obvious. Being new to the portfolio, Anthony Albanese was clearly out of his depth. He knew it and I think was quiet happy just to add to Malcolm's frustrations.

sails · 14 August 2013

Turnbull explains about Rudd's Blackspot Bother

drsmith · 15 August 2013

Ken Morgan makes the same point Malcolm Turnbull has been making,

Now Rudd's back telling us, as he repeatedly did on Sunday night, that his visionary NBN is going marvellously. Well if it is Rudd will have absolutely no problem in immediately releasing an update of NBN Co's corporate plan that is sitting on the desks of Penny Wong and Anthony Albanese, the two NBN shareholder ministers. To do otherwise would be a conspiracy and Rudd wouldn't want to be accused of that.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...-hides-nbn-truth/story-e6frgd0x-1226696601734

drsmith · 15 August 2013

We've seen those images of some of Telstra's infrastructure. Below is an NBN trench, post construction.

And this is post-remediation, post several weeks work how one of the NBN trenches looks after rain.

http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2013/08/one-b-in-minnamurra-street-kiama-with-its-nbn-story.html

medicowallet · 15 August 2013

If you look carefully down the hole, you can see NBNMyths' hopes and dreams

MW

sydboy007 · 16 August 2013

drsmith said:
We've seen those images of some of Telstra's infrastructure. Below is an NBN trench, post construction.

http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2013/08/one-b-in-minnamurra-street-kiama-with-its-nbn-story.html

Has it been proven to be NBN?

Just asking since an exposed "NBN" cable on the Minnamurra bridge turned out to be for a Telstra mobile base station run along the bridge in a temporary fashion due to rat damage.

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