Garpal Gumnut
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Wouldn't it be appropriate if the execution of these deluded murderous monsters fell on Australia Day.
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PS Although some would argue as follows :-Some systems of parliamentary debate provide for "dividing the question", that is, splitting a complex question up into two or more simple questions. Such a move can be used to split the example as follows:
"Have you ever beaten your wife?"
"If so, are you still doing so?"
In this way, 1 can be answered directly by "no", and then the conditional question 2 does not arise.
In his 1974 novel Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, Robert M. Pirsig translated mu as "no thing", saying that it meant "unask the question". He offered the example of a computer circuit using the binary numeral system, in effect using mu to represent high impedance:
“ For example, it's stated over and over again that computer circuits exhibit only two states, a voltage for "one" and a voltage for "zero". That's silly!
Any computer-electronics technician knows otherwise. Try to find a voltage representing one or zero when the power is off! The circuits are in a mu-state.”
According to the Jargon File, ... mu (here pronounced "moo") is considered by Discordians to be the correct answer to the classic logical fallacy of the loaded question "Have you stopped beating your wife?"[1]
Assuming that you have no wife or you have never beaten your wife, the answer "yes" is wrong because it implies that you used to beat your wife and then stopped, but "no" is worse because it suggests that you have one and are still beating her. As a result, various Discordians proposed mu as the correct answer, alleged by them to mean "Your question cannot be answered because it depends on incorrect assumptions".
nc, ref your reference to swine blood - (pisstake?) - obviously this would come across as designed to insult Moslems - and Indonesia would obviously take it as such - counterproductive etcDo it during Ramadan, soak the bullets in the blood of swine and ensure these monsters find a cosy little spot in hell..
gg,
Loaded question(2 options only at this stage) - suppose you don't believe in capital punishment ?
Have you stopped beating your wife? gg
PS No way should they execute Scott Rush.
PS Incidentally, I'd like to see the remains of the Balibo five given a state funeral on Aus Day
PS Although some would argue as follows :-
"if I don't have a wife or have never beaten my wife, isn't it strictly accurate to answer 'No' to the question 'Have you stopped beating your wife?'? I haven't stopped, after all””I never even started." etc
except that "no" becomes ambiguous as to which interpretation etc -
Summary
how about a third option mods?
Australian 88
Indonesian 38
British 24
American 7
German 6
Swedish 5
Dutch 4
French 4
Danish 3
New Zealander 3
Swiss 3
Brazilian 2
Canadian 2
Japanese 2
South African 2
South Korea 2
Ecuadorian 1
Greek 1
Italian 1
Polish 1
Portuguese 1
Taiwanese 1
Unknown 3
Total 202
Kim :santa:A New Documentary on the Bali Bombings I came across recently
Fool Me Twice ==> http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=-4135706276167925924
thanks gg
I've gone for "moo" (other)
don't believe in death penalty.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_(negative
No worries, thanks, and to R.Pirsig. What a great book.
In his 1974 novel Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, Robert M. Pirsig translated mu as "no thing", saying that it meant "unask the question". He offered the example of a computer circuit using the binary numeral system, in effect using mu to represent high impedance:
“ For example, it's stated over and over again that computer circuits exhibit only two states, a voltage for "one" and a voltage for "zero". That's silly!
Any computer-electronics technician knows otherwise. Try to find a voltage representing one or zero when the power is off! The circuits are in a mu-state.”
(at this point there are two options only to the answer )
correct answer to "Have you stopped beating your wife?" is apparently "moo"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_(negative)
Bali bombers' execution could be delayed by appeal
Posted 3 hours 26 minutes ago
A last-ditch appeal by three Indonesian Islamic militants on death row for a 2002 bombing on Indonesia's island of Bali could delay their execution, an official says.
Imam Samudra, Mukhlas and Amrozi, are facing a firing squad for two nightclub blasts on the resort island in which more than 200 people died, 88 of them Australians, after the country's Supreme Court rejected their final appeal in September.
Last week lawyers for the three handed over documents to the Cilacap District Court, requesting a second judicial review of their case by the Supreme Court.
Spokesman for the attorney general's office, Bonaventura Daulat Nainggolan, says although a second case review is not possible under existing laws, the execution would have to wait until the request is rejected.
"We need to wait until all legal processes are out of the way before we can proceed with the execution," he said.
"It all depends on the court.
"If it doesn't reject it straight away but decides to examine the request first, it would certainly stretch the date of the execution."
Mr Nainggolan says a 30-day period for the militants to request clemency from the President or be executed expires early next month.
The three bombers, who are held in the country's maximum security prison on an island off Java, have repeatedly said they will not appeal to the President for clemency, saying they want to die as martyrs.
Achmad Michdan, who heads the legal defence for the militants, says their efforts should not be interpreted as a cowardly act to slow down the execution.
"This is about restoring the legal supremacy in the country," he said.
"We are not living in the jungle, the laws need to be applied as they are and not changed to anyone's desire."
The lawyers argue that anti-terrorism laws, which were written in the wake of the 2002 attacks, should not be applied retrospectively.
nc, ref your reference to swine blood - (pisstake?) - obviously this would come across as designed to insult Moslems - and Indonesia would obviously take it as such - counterproductive etc
Wiki said:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim
The ordinary word in English is "Muslim. It is sometimes spelt "Moslem", which some regard as offensive.
Thanks Buster ..I'm tipping you would cause more offence with the spelling of Moslem vice Muslim..
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Moslem
Mos·lem (mzlm, ms-) n. Variant of Muslim.
[Arabic muslim; see Muslim.].
btw, whenever I go to Perth, I inevitably go up to Kings Park - stop by Bali memorial up there - I've overheard people saying "this memorial shouldn't be here, this is for the "fallen" - i.e. there are hundreds of trees with plaques of the names of soldiers who didn't return (alive). Personally I am confident that the old diggers wouldn't be so narrow-minded.
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