Well you have just about covered it, all forms of Governments are rubbish, we should just run the Country by facebook then everyone can have a say.
In some way it is a learning when comparisons, excuses and apologies are made. Reminds us that our general good intention also has its downfalls. Cruel to be kind, for example the two atomic bombs, doesn't sit well with me but it saved countless other lives. The longer conflict drags on, the more people get hurt.
It's not a matter of giving each their 2c. It's a matter of doing what is, honestly, to their interest.
So what we have is a belief by those at the top, with very far and few exception, believing that what benefits the ruling and powerful elite will, somehow, obviously, benefit everybody - even if it doesn't appear to. It will.
It's called "trickle down" this and that.
And those are the nicer, more honest ones.
Most make policies knowing it's not benefiting anyone but the top, and that's how it ought to be. But since there's this democracy thing they set about spinning it. It's what Chomsky and Herman called the manufacturing of consent.
So on the one hand you got a few good men and women who think they're the enlightened states elders, so they obviously ought to rule and make law. And those laws obviously benefit everyone because it certainly benefit everyone they know.
On the other you got those, like Trump and his admin, just loot the place because they got the keys and can blame Muslims, refugees, poor people, socialists hippies leftist you name it.
In short, better get rich or get organised.
We all criticise without a solution. Luu takes the opposite side to show us what most of us already know (imperfect system) or have conveniently forgotten (good guys being bad).So if we let you run the place, with a few of your mates, we have nothing to fear because you're a great bloke?
So if we let you run the place, with a few of your mates, we have nothing to fear because you're a great bloke?
Or we go around the streets, randomly picking up people to have a go at running the place?
Or we take a random cross section of intellectuals, and give them a go, after a police check?
I'm just trying to work out a way to replace what we have.
Not trusting anybody, any party, checks and balance is already a good start. That and not making critics and peaceful dissidents disappear are pretty incredible achievements.
So just randomly pick a parliamentarian like you would jury duty. Once picked, the plebs give them a list of priorities to follow.
No more these policies being handed down from on high.
Until that, or something like it, happen, it's just enlightened masters making laws for the plebs.
We all criticise without a solution. Luu takes the opposite side to show us what most of us already know (imperfect system) or have conveniently forgotten (good guys being bad).
I mean, weren't long ago that there's no such thing as a social safety net for the poor. Healthcare for all; education... They didn't came about because the pollies figured it's about time.
Yes, but then you have the plebs being the masters, they decide I like this I will do it my way and the circle starts again.
Who decides what's on the list? The plebs will have their own self interests, as everyone does, the list will be self serving of those who make the list, as it is now.
It also hasn't taken long, for it to be abused and become unaffordable. Plebs don't change that much either.
Well Medicare did. Labor Party introduced it against a defiant Liberal party opposition. Political policy isn't always beneficial either. The people vote that Party out if their policies are not working. It is a constant work in progress and the weaker society members are much better off nowadays than ever before. People should be grateful for the gains that have been made.I mean, weren't long ago that there's no such thing as a social safety net for the poor. Healthcare for all; education... They didn't came about because the pollies figured it's about time.
You want a democracy right? The will of the masses being served sounds about right.
But there are safety checks. Like not harming the minorities or take away anyone else's civil rights without due process etc. etc.
Anyway, the average folks are generally a sane. They don't get kicks out slaughtering people "over there" for some name recognition in the history books. That fact alone will have saved millions of lives and hundreds of billions of dollars.
Well Medicare did. Labor Party introduced it against a defiant Liberal party opposition. Political policy isn't always beneficial either. The people vote that Party out if their policies are not working. It is a constant work in progress and the weaker society members are much better off nowadays than ever before.
The "average folks" aren't in a position to be anything else, you think if you gave them power and means, they would stay "average folks".
It all sounds nice, but I think you're dreaming.
People are people, some are sane, some not so it isn't dependent on their station in life, it is determined by their personal moral compass.
In today's paper, here is an example of a people in a position that can be abused, they didn't have to abuse it but people being people they did.
They aren't politicians, just plebs, just "average folk",
Do you think "average Folk" will have a badge on their foreheads, telling you the good ones from the bad ones so you can pick them.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-...d-thousands-in-cash-gifts-corruption/10127008
It's official.I don't think there are many in Australia, who are happy with their lot in life.
I don't think there are many in Australia, who are happy with their lot in life.
Yea, you wish.
How are parliamentary democracy a British invention anyway? Didn't it started with the Greeks, then the Romans took it, then a thousand year or so later the pom's king lost it to a wart wielding minister or something?
All the good and great things coming out of Western parliamentary "democracy" weren't the result of the parliamentarians and ruling elite. They came about despite those rules; came about because the plebs forces it upon "their" representatives to better adopt it or else go the way of other lords and barons.
Take slavery. Take universal suffrage. Take gay rights. Take environmental protection; workers rights; safety standards; civil rights; financial regulation; social safety net etc. etc.
None of those came about because of the wisdom and greatness the parliament and its leadership figured it's the right thing to do.
So taking credit for it is like taking credit for the sun rising and setting.
You suggesting parliamentary democracy is not a British invention? Don't your remember your social studies and Simon de Munford ?
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