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Ralph Nelson Elliott
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trader said:with all this bull about a double bottom and other chart nonsense , the only
way to pick winners is by analyzing the fundamentals of a company, they
mightn"t always go up straight away but in the long term they will .
Just goes to show you losing your cool..I have been insulted by experts..You are not one of them...LOLO...now to buisness..did anyone read the full update properly...I looked at it again and I discovered the company will do their own crushing of the ore starting the end of April..funny that no one mentioned it..I thought its important...re Anylist request..Hematic is worked into Pallets and then mixed into iron ore to give it different gradings of Steel..Hematic has slightly less FE than the normal iron ore..anyway look it up ..thats what I understamd about Hematic....and I believe there is no difference in price..LOLOLOLOLOLOLOTheAnalyst said:Before you can open your big beak Chicken.......I heard that you are getting listed on the stock exchange today and your code is....DOG....suites you to....i would like to spit and P*ss on you so can you come to the ASX in Melbourne so maybe i will get my opportunity......right in that big dirty slanderous mouth of yours....C**T.......for sure you must have been bashed a few times throughout your life and you cant go to your local pub i reckon cos soon as someone like you has a few beers your mouth wouldnt stop moving and you would be an expert on everything to wouldnt you???
chicken said:Just goes to show you losing your cool..I have been insulted by experts..You are not one of them...LOLO...now to buisness..did anyone read the full update properly...I looked at it again and I discovered the company will do their own crushing of the ore starting the end of April..funny that no one mentioned it..I thought its important...re Anylist request..Hematic is worked into Pallets and then mixed into iron ore to give it different gradings of Steel..Hematic has slightly less FE than the normal iron ore..anyway look it up ..thats what I understamd about Hematic....and I believe there is no difference in price..LOLOLOLOLOLOLO
Now have you noticed..their cash balance of around $38 million..dont quote me but thats what I remember,,,the money is there for them in the Bank and I understand the Chinese are pretty well comitted as they want the Hematic..of 250mt....sothe company would not have gone ahead in ordering their own crusher and Railwagons if they had thought that their plan will not work..I comment MGX in having so much forsight after all their gearing is only $9 million which is nothing..the money they have got will pay for the plans and I pity just the junior miners around them as when the Chinese are on board this will blossom into a much larger outfit..should all happen before April...as per company statements....CHEERS..you make me loughTheAnalyst said:Thanks finally for being a gentlement for once...and explaining hematite...so why would mgx go out of their way to add hematite to iron ore with no extra financial incentive to do so??
Does mgx have to raise equity or borrow or is it going to use its own money to build the crushing facilities? Also how much will mgx save each year by engaging the crushing process itself and not paying an outsider?
Re your first question....they mining the ironore first ,as the Hematics are in a different mine...and then starting to mine the hematics...a factory in China is being build which will take time and then the Hematics are send by sea to China where the Hematics are turned into Pallets....and then of course are being used in China..see Shaws report....as far as equity..no its self funding..TheAnalyst said:Thanks finally for being a gentlement for once...and explaining hematite...so why would mgx go out of their way to add hematite to iron ore with no extra financial incentive to do so??
Does mgx have to raise equity or borrow or is it going to use its own money to build the crushing facilities? Also how much will mgx save each year by engaging the crushing process itself and not paying an outsider?
Analyst and board,chicken said:Just goes to show you losing your cool..I have been insulted by experts..You are not one of them...LOLO...now to buisness..did anyone read the full update properly...I looked at it again and I discovered the company will do their own crushing of the ore starting the end of April..funny that no one mentioned it..I thought its important...re Anylist request..Hematic is worked into Pallets and then mixed into iron ore to give it different gradings of Steel..Hematic has slightly less FE than the normal iron ore..anyway look it up ..thats what I understamd about Hematic....and I believe there is no difference in price..LOLOLOLOLOLOLO
chicken said:Analyst and board,
Correction here, the Hematic which are turned into pallets after checking with a specialist in Iron production has informed me that the pallets are in fact HIGHER in FE ..iron concentration then normal iron ore..they are used in producing a higher quality steel and are in fact more expensive than normal iron ore..so MGX s....Pallets will be desirable to the Chinese as its use for better quality steel.....so the 250mt are now a more attrative business proposition..no wonder the Chinese are still keen to be involved in this project...thanks analyst for asking the question as I did not know myself...had the wrong end of the stick...makes me happy to know that MGX have indeed got a better proposition than I thought.....
TheAnalyst said:Hi Chicken
Do you think that you could get a price on all three minerals now(hematite, magnetite and iron ore) per tonne or in pallet form at current market price?
Then we can use the company estimates of there deposites and value the whole lot and we can class that as an asset that they have as well as adding the other current and non-current assets that are used in the mining operations because i know that their last NTA per share is about 22 cents and was wondering if that included the mining deposits as well?
johnno261 said:The Analyst, you are wasting your time trying to ascertain all of the above when it comes to a stock like MGX. Those whom know roughly the tonnage P/A, based on price per tonnage over the minelife, will give you the most basic form of value of this company. Having said all that, is it really going to initiate you to buy this stock?
My personal opinion is also not to worry too much about every discrete little figure as we all know, when you purchase into any mining company, figures can change overnight!! Resource Upgrades,Iron Ore Price Upgrades,Profit downgrades, etc etc etc. Can you see where I'm coming from. I could go on and on about 100's of instant variants that could happen!!!!
TheAnalystThe stock is now on my watch list.....????.....Johnno i just asked some fair questions
laurie said:TheAnalyst
Just out of curiosity do you do this for every share you buy!
cheers laurie
so we are seeing the repeat of a cycle and it will happen again it always does...never been a time when it hasnt...
laurie said:TheAnalyst
Yes true but every body say's we are going to have a correction! even my blind dog can see that BUT WHEN is what I want to know! every one say's that phrase to cover themselves when it happens "See I told you so" I must admit I have never used charts just my gut feeling,knowledge of the stock and it's was my gut feeling about MGX that got me in @.44c I'm not at all knocking your method hey it's your money and you have every right to be cautious I'm a bit of a risk taker so horses for courses
cheers laurie
ps I do have a blind dog he's my best mate
chicken said:Analyst, as I said this company has potential, as for price..who knows? The price will be different than last year and the 250mt of Hematics you could say the pellets per ton will be anything from $80 to $120 per ton so it looks as if the Chinese understand what they are dealing with... the potential is in their assets....which look like many Billions of $$$......and of course the company is producing and shipping Iron ore...and making $$$$$$
You were very lucky to have got in so cheaply..so when did you get in at that price?
I use to be a welder/boilermaker
TheAnalyst said:Is that the actual current price for hematite and have you got a web link to that?
Also what is the current price of magnetite?
I use to be a welder/boilermaker and to get a higher(stronger) tensile steel manufaturers use to add i think it was more carbon to the steel so it would be harder than just your ordinary mild steel especially when we had to make conveyor belts, is this the reason why hematite and magnetite are better for mking this type of steel and it reduces the extra time and inputs into making harder more tensile steel than just having to use iron ore?
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