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www.theage.com.au/news/n...63266413670.html

Up to 20,000 people are expected to attend a protest rally from the State Library to the Grand Hyatt on Saturday, which police have confirmed will be under extraordinarily tight security to avoid a repeat of the S11 protests against the World Economic Forum in 2000.
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I wish there was something we could do about these scumbag, good for nothing trouble making dole bludging protestors. They do this just to get their rocks off.

We need to line the roads with rat traps.
Australia needs water canons and rubber bullets.

I know this is logistically and practically immpossible to impliment but we need a 2 strike policy.
All names and address taken - if taken twice in a 12 month period then disqualify them from the dole. They should have been out looking for work.
 
I disagree with the protestors opinions. However, they have the right to protest as long as they conduct themselves in an appropriate manner. Rowdy protestors seldom achieve their aims. I attended a couple of protest rallies back iin the late 80s over different issues, but it remained peaceful.
 
Go the protestors, give them hell

I'm all for free trade but there is no free trade, the protectionist policies of various countries and trade blocs are a farse.
 
bvbfan said:
Go the protestors, give them hell

I'm all for free trade but there is no free trade, the protectionist policies of various countries and trade blocs are a farse.
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Yes, Go the protestors.
Smash the car windows, bang in the car doors and shop and office front windows, damage public property.
This is how we should show disapproval isnt it?
Thats exactly what the S11 protestors did.
Why do you find that acceptable?
 
I'm with Greggy on this one. Right to protest should always be a tenet of our society. That does not imply an acceptance of any form of violence or property damage.

At the same time, I do get a bit irritated at the need for use of police resources when the demonstrators can't make their point without causing trouble.

Julia
 
Good afternoon Julia,

Your approach is commonsense. If the protestors worry so much about the poor, why don't they take up voluntary work to help them like I've done. But I suppose my small "l" liberal approach probably wouldn't get too far with some of them.
 
you could do what i wanted to all those years ago - just go to the steps of flinders st station and kick the **** out of anyone sitting there - fair chance they will be attending the protest.
 
son of baglimit said:
you could do what i wanted to all those years ago - just go to the steps of flinders st station and kick the **** out of anyone sitting there - fair chance they will be attending the protest.
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Hi Son of baglimit,

It wouldn't be worth lowering your standards as you would end up being as bad as some of the protestors.
 
Rat traps and Water cannons, hahahaha, luv that one, I picture little Johnny on top of the tank shooting the water cannon, Roflmao...
 
Hi Julia,
Yesterday here in Melbourne, a number of pathetic protesters turned to violence in order to get their message across. Damaging police vehicles, spitting on people, assaulting police and scaring the police horses, gees how brave can you get!! No doubt some of the people attending did so with the right intention of participating in a peaceful protest, but the protest was taken over by an angry mob hellbent on causing fear and destruction. Their cause has suffered as a result.
 

Only seventy, wearing plastic disguises. Eight of them managed to corner one cop and bash him.

They threw balloons of urine at the police and did a fair bit of other damage.

The total turnout was only around 2000, far less than the 20,000 promised. The nasty protestors took off their disguises and hid in the crowd but as there was a small crowd we can hope they will be arrested.

The magistrates should not treat these nasty demonstators as the 70s activists of their youth and let them get off scott free as usual. They should be charged and given a criminal record.
 
Yes, saw it on TV last night, Greggy. It's particularly vile when they hurt the police horses. What sort of pathetic creatures would do something so inane, not to mention cruel.

Agree with Knobby. Hope they can be found and given some appropriate sentence, preferably one that involves a measure of humiliation.

Julia
 
G20 agrees to increase investments in energy sector

He [Treasurer Peter Costello] says the world economy is growing strongly, but he is cautious about how long it will continue.

"The last time I saw general euphoria in the global economic community was in 1997, three months before the Asian financial collapse," he said.


I hope the Treasurer isn't dropping hints about the recession we have to have . . . Softening us up ready.
 
Yes, hear! Hear!!
Maybe some of the protesters would grow up if they went overseas to countries that don't even tolerate any form of protest (e.g. China - remember Tianamin Square and the protesters there were more reasonable ones than the angry mob on Saturday). Make them pay for any damage and make them do plenty of voluntary work until they grow up and behave responsibly. I took a walk thru the city on Saturday and saw some of them. It was like a timewarp back to the 70s.
 
The right to protest, PEACEFUL protest, is fundamental. The moment that goes then we know we're already well down the track of living in a dictatorship.

The lack of protest marches etc in recent times is starting to worry me a bit. Here in Hobart at least, we only seem to get a march of some sort every few months now and the big protests, the kind that get 5 - 15% of the entire population in the march, just don't seem to be happening at all these days.

Nothing to protest about? Nobody is really concerned anymore? Or are people frightened of the consequences? I strongly suspect it's the latter

Feel you have freedom in Australia? Try this. Get a film camera and take the following pictures on the SAME film (all within 250km of Melbourne):

1. Rialto Towers building (city)
2. Southbank area (city)
3. Flinders St station at the platforms (city)
4. Altona oil refinery (inner suburban)
5. Newport power station (inner suburban)
7. Assorted views of the city skyline
8. Loy Yang power station (Traralgon)

Now, take this film in to be developed and be sure to leave your name and contact details. Feel safe? Or feel you might be locked up for taking the exact same photos I took (for perfectly legitimate reasons) without the slightest concern in 1995.

I contend that we are LOSING the "war on terror" since it is achieving exactly what terrorists aim to achieve - a loss of freedom. Bit by bit, it gets chipped away. Lack of protests, especially the more radical ones, these days is just another symptom IMO.
 
I would.

I got my ribs broken and was whipped by the horse pigs during a peaceful demonstration. I wrote a longer post before, that got deleted, and I can't be bothered repeating it.

The gist of it was that the organisers of PEACEFUL demonstrations get locked up, and given criminal records, even if they don't do anything. It's rubbish. There is no longer a right to protest in Australia.
 
This may be hyper cynical:

But why would these "protesters" completely alienate the great bulk of reasonable people from their "message"?

My hypothesis is this: There is a genuine concern in the community about the activities of the globalists. But these clowns negate that cocnern so effectively by raising anti protester emotions as evident here.

I suspect a False Flag operation when I see crap like this.

Reasonable concerns become camouflaged behind the ensuing negative media smokescreen.

I believe we are being manipulated folks.
 
chops_a_must said:
The gist of it was that the organisers of PEACEFUL demonstrations get locked up, and given criminal records, even if they don't do anything. It's rubbish. There is no longer a right to protest in Australia.
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I think the problem is in both camps. There are plenty of documented instances of Police going overboard with violence against protesters.

On the other hand there are many foolish protesters that damage property and injure people that are breaking the law.

The day Aussies lose the right to peaceful protest, I'll leave the country. I don't think we're there yet, but I agree that we are heading that way. To my mind, I'd like to see the organisers of these protests be more proactive in preventing violence.
 
I have been to many protests that have got out of hand and I can safely say that violence has never been instigated by protestors (at the ones I have been to).

The problem always comes when police try and guide the crowd, get impatient, or want them to disperse etc. The best thing the police can do with big crowds is be totally passive. So long as they don't do anything to inflame the masses, i.e. beat bystanders/ leaders/ anyone up, they don't have anything to fear. Unfortunately, a lot of police aren't really that bright, and are only one level above the criminals they catch on the pecking order, and want to prove how male they are.

So long as the police are prepared to wait out the protesters, they get bored and move on. Unfortunately, they are under orders to get everyone to move. That's where the problem lies.
 
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