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Market response to the Election outcome

JohnDe

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One of the positives will be China. The LNP brand is mud to the China political class, but now with the Labor Party running the show things will change and there will be smiles in some sections of China politics (and business leaders on both sides of the globe). The door to negotiation is slightly ajar, and with that the markets may factor in a small ray of hope. I haven't seen any commentary on this yet but the next few weeks will be interesting.

 

Maybe, but Albanese shows few signs of walking away from the US Alliance that has always stuck in China's throat.

We can all hope for an improvement in Aus/China relations but I wouldn't necessarily take it for granted.
 
Maybe, but Albanese shows few signs of walking away from the US Alliance that has always stuck in China's throat.

We can all hope for an improvement in Aus/China relations but I wouldn't necessarily take it for granted.

True we can all hope, with some help from change in circumstances.

Pressure is mounting on Xi from internal economic factors, a new Australian government could be a possible way out of the total political vacuum with Australia and the PRC.

"growing fears among foreign investors of a grand policy disaster are. The combination of a serious downturn in the housing market and Xi Jinping’s uncompromising zero-covid policy is just one recent conundrum that has led foreign fund managers to question whether China is losing its pragmatic approach to managing the economy.
Mr Xi’s insistence on using prolonged lockdowns to rid China of the Omicron variant, as well as his backing for Russia’s war in Ukraine, are being seen as ideological pursuits that ignore economic and geopolitical realities. Add in the timing of his crackdown on tech groups such as Alibaba, an e-commerce company, and on the leverage of property giants such as Evergrande, and it helps explain why some of the world’s largest investment groups are questioning the quality of leadership in Beijing. Many attribute this and other ideological campaigns to preparations for the Communist Party congress set to be held in the autumn, at which Mr Xi is expected to be granted another five years in office. The events of 2022 could shape how global investors view China for years to come.
In little over a year Mr Xi’s policies have had a profound impact on global markets—and a painful one. They have knocked $2trn from Chinese shares listed in Hong Kong and New York. Chinese initial public offerings in these two cities have nearly ground to a halt this year. China’s property firms have sold just $280m in high-yield dollar bonds so far in 2022, down from $15.6bn during the same period last year, according to Dealogic, a data provider. Within China, the value of yuan-denominated financial assets held by foreigners fell by more than 1trn yuan ($150bn) in the first three months of 2022, the biggest drop ever. The Institute of International Finance (iif), a bankers’ group in Washington, forecasts that a total of $300bn in capital will flow out of the country this year, up from $129bn in 2021."


 
China is downsizing it's investments in selected nations , i believe Australia will be one , because we tend to follow the US , and the US uses a lot of sanctions ,now will China's policy on Australia soften just because of a change of government , time will tell
 
I'd be waiting until 11.30 until some large and important Federal Liberal identities past and present work out after seeing their lawyers yesterday whether or not they will be lining up for a Federal ICAC.

All those contracts put out, so few in the know to take them up for a pittance.

Forget about the environment, wages and debt.

The main game today will be transferring assets to Grandma before the show goes up and the only beds available are beside Eddie, Ian and Co. up at Cooma.

There may be some selling.

gg
 
damn , GG you were about an hour early

the market is now hovering near zero

( but nice work )
 
damn , GG you were about an hour early

the market is now hovering near zero

( but nice work )

A few hours is not a time frame to gauge whether any positives from a new government will come about between China and Australia and business.

As the first post mention's "the next few weeks will be interesting."

Like any investment decisions, take your time and look around.


 
i normally react on target price FIRST , recent news second ( except on a 'stop-the-presses ' moment ) ( therefore in a SUDDEN drop , i will get my target price and MAYBE a second buy lower the same day )

GG's comment hinting he expected a short rally ( if any at all today ) and although i haven't changed any prices today i will watch some more closely than planned Sunday
 
A few hours is not a time frame to gauge whether any positives from a new government will come about between China and Australia and business.

Like any investment decisions, take your time and look around.
Elephant in Room (or not)... excerpts from AFR:

Not so long ago, boards and executives could worry about shareholder returns and financial performance first, second and third. [With t]he emergence of ESG (environmental, social, governance) issues, [ ] companies now know both their social licence to operate and cost of capital depend at least in part on balancing financial returns with matters such as emissions reduction, gender diversity, inclusion and accountability.

But really, these forces have transformed the business sector in the past five years, for better or worse.

The biggest area of change the business community will need to navigate under Anthony Albanese will be in the area of climate policy, although exactly what this eventually might look like will depend on whether Labor can form a majority government, and how the votes in the Senate fall.

Like all things there will be winners and losers. And, to my mind, the more any government tries to pick them, the worse the outcomes. Sadly, they don't seem to be able to stop thinking they're important and the new flush of colour politics look even more woke.
 
I believe ESG is over-rated at least in a 12 month out scenario.

If the ALP want to make any changes they will have to ask all miners and oilers to present their current ESG profiles and plans for the future.

The Greens and Teals may have some input but there is much else on both their agendas that can delay any action by the ALP on the 2 sectors that are keeping Australia's head above water, Materials and Energy.

Then you'll have your lobbyists, and all the other hangers on who frequented the Old Coffee Cart and Aussies. Also the brothers and sisters in the ALP from posh suburbs will be pushing the Uluru Statement, with all of which It will be a complete sh*t fest, for two years.

Then there will be another year of to and fro, bargaining and the Murdoch Press stirring, and then we are in to another election.

It takes a two term Government to make significant change on anything imo.

gg
 

I think that the forward looking business have been transforming for longer than 5 years, and what we are seeing now is the others trying to prepare themselves at the worst time (Covid & supply issues).

I agree with you about governments picking winners, it is not in their expertise to do so. However, the world is very competitive and things change very quickly, to stay near the front governments need to assist in future proofing. Look at the top countries in the world, it is government that has assisted. Look at the poorest countries in the world and it is lack of government that keeps them poor. China is a great example of a country where government stepped in and helped business create immense wealth for all, it's also an example of where too much government causes issues.
 
I think this government will want to move very quickly on some key areas. I'd be amazed and very disappointed if the ICAC legislation is not presented and passed with a few months. One would also hope that there will be sufficient resources in terms of staffing and multiple judges to begin parallel investigations by year end.

The policies and programs around accelerating renewable energy investment in Australia and ensuring the lights don't go out when coal fired stations close down has to be an immediate priority. Mucking around for 18 months would be a recipe for electoral disaster. The pressure from Greens ,Teal and Labour voters to see this happen will be massive. Hopefully.. someone has been doing their homework and can hit the ground running. There are certainly enough organisations that have developed strategies that would be capable of being put into action.

I can see a lot of midnight oil being burnt in the new Government.
 
they had better rush and buy that oil while they can afford it

don't expect too much from the investigations , experience has taught me , you only ever see the top 10% of corruption , as you dig down you find corruption will entangle fellow judges , politicians from all sides , a big slab of the various police forces , etc etc etc

the ALP will have an extensive dirt file ( on both friends and rivals ) but will still be caught off-guard by unpleasant twists ( they sure did when i had solid contacts inside the ALP and certain unions , i assume that has NOT stopped )

you will either see a white-wash , or a wave of 'untimely deaths '

but bulk-buy your popcorn , it should be a great distraction to the imploding economy
 
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