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Market maker bots

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I was curious if Market Maker bots are able to naked buy and sell to their market?

Anyone know much about them? or know where i can get some information from?
 
i sometimes see a naked bot around my place, tend to give that one a slappin..

if market makers are stark naked buyin or sellin i dont think it makes a fiddlers toss myself
 
What markets? What Market Makers?

The spi200 market mainly.

Goto section 28 on http://www.camron.com.au/mainpage.htm
(im on my mobile so i can link sites properly).
im not how else to answer the question "what market makers" as i have only just learnt about them on there.

Lol and what i mean about naked selling is, selling a contract without actually possessing it. I would imagine a market maker bot needs to fill orders in a quiet market, but does that mean that they need to have the contracts already in their account in order to fill the orders?
 
.... So are there any on other futures?

What about on equities.. Can they sell naked on them? Who controls the MM's on equities?

No MM on aussie shares like they have on NYSE. We have MM on options and warrants etc but thats it.

I don't know of any futs with official MM. Many traders may from time to time act like MM.
 
I think some bank traders actually MM for the futs.

Maybe wrong, but it wouldn't surprise me with some of the dodgy sh*t that gets pulled.
 
ok, ok....

i think i am getting it now..

in the future there will be bots,

they wont be naked unless they are "going back to the future" and they end up like arnie in that bubble thing all naked..

friggin bots, they are pests imho..:D
 
No MM on aussie shares like they have on NYSE. We have MM on options and warrants etc but thats it.

I don't know of any futs with official MM. Many traders may from time to time act like MM.

I didn't think there were official MMs either on the SPI, however, I have heard that XJO option MMs use the SPI to hedge. Perhaps they do a bit more than hedging their option trades. Have seen the list of MMs and they would have extremely deep pockets :D
 
I didn't think there were official MMs either on the SPI, however, I have heard that XJO option MMs use the SPI to hedge. Perhaps they do a bit more than hedging their option trades. Have seen the list of MMs and they would have extremely deep pockets :D

Yeah for sure there was a really nasty bot turned on 2-3 days before options expiry all of last year. It would smash the hell out of the market and we would get a very large range day in the opposite direction of the previous 2 weeks or so. Would be very handy no doubt if you had just wrote a heap of juicy options.

Once I got onto it it use to be my best day of the month :D:D
 
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