Los Angeles Fire storm

[basilio]

The ongoing incineration of 10's of thousands of homes, units, public facilities and infrastructure Los Angeles is going to be pivotal point in US history.
The destruction is still happening. Winds will pick up again on the weekend. Implications for the future ?

The lessons of the Titanic are enduring​

Steve Schmidt
Jan 11, 2025
Steve Schmidt
Jan 11, 2025








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Like the Great Fire of London in 1666, the Great Fire of Los Angeles will be recalled for 500 years.

The scale of the conflagration is biblical. These epochal fires will join Chicago and San Francisco atop an infamous registry of American destruction.

The fires are still spreading, still growing. There is no precedent, and no similar event by scale, cost or damage that has ever occurred in America. None.

The “Big One” came, but it wasn’t an earthquake that triggered the inferno, it was January winds that brought with it a storm surge of fire.

The worst case scenario has arrived, and don’t let anyone tell you that it was unforeseeable.

The conflagration was entirely predictable, and ultimately, inevitable. In fact, it was destiny. I don’t say that lightly.

The winds have brought Armageddon, and a brutal judgement upon the genius and arrogance of mankind’s building on a Garden of Eden, tempting the wrath of creation.

This is why I have written about Titanic so often. The lessons are enduring — even if the learnings have been fleeting.

The lessons of the Titanic are enduring

Like the Great Fire of London in 1666, the Great Fire of Los Angeles will be recalled for 500 years.

steveschmidt.substack.com

 

[Smurf1976]

Thankfully the number of fatalities, 11 reported thus far, is still fairly low at least what's reported.

Versus past major fires in Australia:

Victoria 2009 = 173 deaths

Victoria and SA 1983 = 75 deaths

Victoria 1939 = 71 deaths

Tasmania 1967 = 64 deaths

Victoria 1926 = 60 deaths

Victoria 1962 = 32 deaths

Victoria 1969 = 23 deaths

That's not to say the situation in LA isn't serious, just that they've thus far been relatively lucky in terms of the human toll.

 

[basilio]

Thankfully the number of fatalities, 11 reported thus far, is still fairly low at least what's reported.

Versus past major fires in Australia:

Victoria 2009 = 173 deaths

Victoria and SA 1983 = 75 deaths

Victoria 1939 = 71 deaths

Tasmania 1967 = 64 deaths

Victoria 1926 = 60 deaths

Victoria 1962 = 32 deaths

Victoria 1969 = 23 deaths

That's not to say the situation in LA isn't serious, just that they've thus far been relatively lucky in terms of the human toll.

Yes... Nah.
It's great that, at this stage , deaths in the LA fires have been limited. The analysis however does far beyond that metric in highlighting the profound impact these fires will have across the world.

Just one very obvious one. Insurance premiums, exemptions and availabilty around the world will be utterly rewritten in the next few weeks. Apart from the LA fires the floods in Spain come to mind as a massive insurance event. The Munich Re story goes into much detail on the 2024 disasters.

Munich Re has been highlighting the consequences of global warming on natural disasters since the mid seventies

Climate change is showing its claws: The world is getting hotter, resulting in severe hurricanes, thunderstorms and floods | Munich Re

Worldwide, natural disasters caused losses of US$ 320bn in 2024 (2023, adjusted for inflation: US$ 268bn), of which around US$ 140bn (US$ 106bn) were insured. The overall losses and, even more so, the insured losses were considerably higher than the inflation-adjusted averages of the past ten...

www.munichre.com

 

[farmerge]

Thankfully the number of fatalities, 11 reported thus far, is still fairly low at least what's reported.

Versus past major fires in Australia:

Victoria 2009 = 173 deaths

Victoria and SA 1983 = 75 deaths

Victoria 1939 = 71 deaths

Tasmania 1967 = 64 deaths

Victoria 1926 = 60 deaths

Victoria 1962 = 32 deaths

Victoria 1969 = 23 deaths

That's not to say the situation in LA isn't serious, just that they've thus far been relatively lucky in terms of the human toll.

@Smurf1976 I notice that WA doesn't rate a mention in this list.
There have been a few deaths due to fires over here in years gone by also.

 

[Smurf1976]

@Smurf1976 I notice that WA doesn't rate a mention in this list.

I just took the biggest ones from a list online, no intentional bias on my part to any particular state.

 

[Knobby22]

Saw Canada has been a big help with multiple aircraft.

 

[SirRumpole]

Saw Canada has been a big help with multiple aircraft.

Well, they will learn their lesson when Trump gets in and raises tariffs.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Saw Canada has been a big help with multiple aircraft.

As with Australia, the tradition of assisting your neighbour and volunteering has not been eradicated by leftie governments who turned it over to lardarse public servants.

gg

 

[farmerge]

Saw Canada has been a big help with multiple aircraft.

And fire crews also

 

[basilio]

The fires are far from controlled and strong winds this week will continue to threaten further destruction.
The Guardian has a number of pictures of the destruction. Further in the bog they have a 60sec clip which compares a tourists film of the Pacific Palisades before and after the fire.

California fires live: LA fire chief says ‘we are ready’ ahead of ‘critical fire weather’ and heavy winds forecast

At least 16 people have been killed so far, while Los Angeles county sheriff says death toll expected to rise

www.theguardian.com

 

[basilio]

As with Australia, the tradition of assisting your neighbour and volunteering has not been eradicated by leftie governments who turned it over to lardarse public servants.

gg

Indeed . In fact the latest country to offer fire fighting support to the US is Ukraine.

Ukraine's president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, has offered to send help to California​

Zelenskyy has said Ukraine is ready to assist those affected by the devastating wildfires in California, and 150 Ukrainian firefighters are ready to go.

“Today, I instructed Ukraine’s minister of internal affairs and our diplomats to prepare for the possible participation of our rescuers in combating the wildfires in California,” Zelenskky said in a post on X.

“The situation there is extremely difficult, and Ukrainians can help Americans save lives. This is currently being coordinated, and we have offered our assistance to the American side through the relevant channels. 150 of our firefighters are already prepared.”

Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskiy leaves after a trilateral meeting with French President Emmanuel Macron and US President-elect Trump at the elysee palace in Paris on 7 December, 2024. Photograph: Sarah Meyssonnier/Reuters
Zelensky’s offer of assistance comes three days after Donald Trump Jr., son of U.S. President-elect Donald Trump, responded to the Los Angeles wildfires by blaming Ukraine on social media.

“Oh look of course the LA fire department donated a bunch of their supplies to Ukraine,” Trump. Jr. said in a post on X on 8 January.

 

[farmerge]

Indeed . In fact the latest country to offer fire fighting support to the US is Ukraine.

Ukraine's president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, has offered to send help to California​

Zelenskyy has said Ukraine is ready to assist those affected by the devastating wildfires in California, and 150 Ukrainian firefighters are ready to go.

“Today, I instructed Ukraine’s minister of internal affairs and our diplomats to prepare for the possible participation of our rescuers in combating the wildfires in California,” Zelenskky said in a post on X.

“The situation there is extremely difficult, and Ukrainians can help Americans save lives. This is currently being coordinated, and we have offered our assistance to the American side through the relevant channels. 150 of our firefighters are already prepared.”

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Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskiy leaves after a trilateral meeting with French President Emmanuel Macron and US President-elect Trump at the elysee palace in Paris on 7 December, 2024. Photograph: Sarah Meyssonnier/Reuters
Zelensky’s offer of assistance comes three days after Donald Trump Jr., son of U.S. President-elect Donald Trump, responded to the Los Angeles wildfires by blaming Ukraine on social media.

“Oh look of course the LA fire department donated a bunch of their supplies to Ukraine,” Trump. Jr. said in a post on X on 8 January.

Just how much b/s can the Trumpet brigade come up. and it has only just started anew.

 

[basilio]

Just how much b/s can the Trumpet brigade come up. and it has only just started anew.

How much can they come up ? Frankly unlimited in volume, stench and toxicity. He is just getting warmed up with the LA wild fires.

In a post on on his Truth Social platform, Trump said incompetent politicians have no idea how to put out the raging fires.

“This is one of the worst catastrophes in the history of our Country. They just can’t put out the fires. What’s wrong with them?” he asked.

MSN

 

[SirRumpole]

How much can they come up ? Frankly unlimited in volume, stench and toxicity. He is just getting warmed up with the LA wild fires.

In a post on on his Truth Social platform, Trump said incompetent politicians have no idea how to put out the raging fires.

“This is one of the worst catastrophes in the history of our Country. They just can’t put out the fires. What’s wrong with them?” he asked.

MSN

There doesn't appear to be much sympathy for those who have lost their homes.

It couldn't be connected to the fact that California didn't vote Republican, could it?....

 

[basilio]

There doesn't appear to be much sympathy for those who have lost their homes.

It couldn't be connected to the fact that California didn't vote Republican, could it?....

Naturally. But where Trump excels is trashing firefighters and politicians for not doing the impossible. In this case stopping a wildfire in tinder dry conditions in canyons and valleys with a 150k wind behind it.

But hey he is now President of the most powerful country on earth and will order people and the planet to do anything he wants.

 

[SirRumpole]

Naturally. But where Trump excels is trashing firefighters and politicians for not doing the impossible. In this case stopping a wildfire in tinder dry conditions in canyons and valleys with a 150k wind behind it.

But hey he is now President of the most powerful country on earth and will order people and the planet to do anything he wants.

I think he could blow the fires out all by himself.

 

[farmerge]

An update on the arvo news today with the death toll now at 24 and possibly climbing.
Pity the Trumpet isn't at the fire front. He could huff, and he could puff and blow those fires out, all by himself.

 

[farmerge]

How much can they come up ? Frankly unlimited in volume, stench and toxicity. He is just getting warmed up with the LA wild fires.

In a post on on his Truth Social platform, Trump said incompetent politicians have no idea how to put out the raging fires.

“This is one of the worst catastrophes in the history of our Country. They just can’t put out the fires. What’s wrong with them?” he asked.

MSN

Of course if The trumpet just wasn't POTUS elect but POTUS he would have had all of this under control long ago.

 

[Knobby22]

Of course if The trumpet just wasn't POTUS elect but POTUS he would have had all of this under control long ago.

About a week to go.

 

[farmerge]

About a week to go.

With the inauguration of POTUS Elect The Trumpet some will say a fan fare of trumpets and others might suggest the blowing of raspberries.