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Good to see the sp hit $3 today. Surely a breach into $3 + soon.
Would be nice to see a percentage rise similar to that of Cougar's today
LNC holder.
That's really sweet but Couger shareholders (grrrrrr...) have been basically hung drawn and quartered in the past few months. .7c rise after dropping from 12c plus to 1.5c ? Just an ugly, ugly set of figures and lot's of hope that some sort of phoenix might rise from the ashes.
I hope you weren't thinking that maybe LNC should drop to say 40c so it could make a jump to 60c ? ( Of course not...!)
I do hope your not one of the unfortunate Cougar share holders who've been "hung drawn and quartered" as you put it Bas.
I wonder if PB has thought about Garbage to Diesel, gas and electricity, now that would really be turning something of no value in value.. I read in the above link this pyromex UHTG is self sufficent supplying itself with enough electricity to run itself. Its probably heading off on too much of a tangent from the major goal of UCG-GTL.
The Pyromex System
The Pyromex system enables localised low emission or emission free conversion (disposal) of waste materials with energy recovery rates of approximately 90 to 95 per cent. The system uses approximately 15 per cent. of the syngas as fuel to generate its own electrical power requirement, resulting in approximately 80 per cent. of the produced energy available for sale. No toxic or harmful residues are formed during the thermal reduction of the waste material into fuel energy.
I also wonder if Shale to Diesel would be profitable, and if the Exploration Licences in South Australia and USA include shale.
My thoughts on AFC following the AGM
Jeremy L
10UP
From yesterday’s meeting this is now what I believe to be the case:-
2011:- Main focus clearly is proving up the commercial product the Beta Cell. There will be two trials one at Akzo Nobel the second at Dunsfold. My take on this is that the trials will take a good few months and they are not set up yet, as we all know the trials are due to start sometime before the end of June. So with a bit of luck we will know how these have gone in the autumn.
Late 2011/2012:- I'm hopeful that a larger scale trial will be agreed and be set up, this will be the pilot supergreen PowerStation we've all heard about, this will be a joint project between AFC and various other companies that you all know about already.
Late 2012/13:- Commercialisation- sales of beta cells in the hundreds of kilowatts. (A reply to my question from Ed in the Q&A section of the AGM). My view is that I’m optimistic that progress will go so well this will happen earlier, truth is we will all have to wait and see.
2014/15:- Megawatt and possibly gigawatt sales (my best guess from all that was said at the AGM)
The Beta Cell: - has had some significant efficiency, design and cost saving upgrades. Potentially small tweaks and improvements can still be made but essentially it's now been designed and is pretty much the final version that will be commercialised. The impression I had was that in its final design this will be the ultimate Alkaline Fuel Cell and there will be very little room for any kind of further improvements by any other companies looking to take a slice of AFCs market share. The key aspects of the design of the Beta cell will have very strong patents (9 primary patent applications have been made). This for me is probably the greatest bit of news as competitors will have a very difficult time developing an alkaline fuel cell that can beat AFCs Beta cell. My interpretation is that companies wanting an Alkaline fuel cell will be using an AFC one or potentially there could be deals done with other companies to use AFC designs in their fuelcells.
The Electrode and catalyst: - Details of the latest Electrode and catalyst were top secret, the impression I had was that they have really hit the jackpot here and the cost will stay very low for a very long time. This is again fantastic news and I can’t wait to find out more of these details when they become public at some point in time.
Ramping up production for commercialisation: - Nothing decided yet on how they would do this, 2013 will be when production capacity needs to be ramped up so plenty of time to decide how this would be done. I had the impression that they have lots of options for mass production and discussions have already commenced with companies to potentially outsource mass production (nothing decided yet though).
Funding:- I asked this in the Q&A, the answer from Tim Yeo was along the lines of ' we are well funded for now'.
A few other things:-
Something im pretty sure was mentioned at the AGM (please correct me if im wrong) Akzo already have tried out the beta cell running in an alpha unit, sounds like this has gone ok.
Plans and detailed cost models and processes (traffic light system) are all now in place so that all aspects of the business are checked and monitored at all times so that all timelines can be achieved.
Pace of research:- Faster than Ed always anticipates.
Investor day in the summer (Date TBC)
As mentioned yesterday the overall impression I came away with is that the AFC team are supremely confident about the product they have developed and that commercialisation will definitely happen. Ed's estimate for commercialisation was 18 months (his answer in the Q&A) and this will be hundreds of kw.
Great to meet Nick and a few others from this discussion board (sorry about your car Nick!)
Hope this helps
A bit of ancient history now, but the Age reports this morning allegations that Tony Mokbel and his brother laundered money through investments in Linc Energy back in 2004-2006.
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/many-branches-to-mokbel-drugmoney-trail-20110419-1dnh5.html
I really appreciate the post McCoy Pauley. I will definitely stay away from these guys. Cheers for the heads up.
Gumby
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