Hi Asick,
A client of mine received 2 distributions in Dec but I have not received copies of the statements from him yet to see how LM have classified them. In the phone hookup with LM Francene Mulder said that they were paying "catch up" distributions in Dec so I would think they will be "income" rather than a return of capital
Hi Mysteryman, it might be a matter of Trilogy's licence. If Trilogy doesn't have a proper licence, it could be that payments are not being made to the fund. This could be easily checked out by contacting Trilogy.
Further, Trilogy's fee would accrue from the date it was appointed. If the payments to your fund are small, the money could well be taken by Trilogy as management fees. Again, contacting Trilogy would resolve this issue.
In any event, it might be best to write/email Trilogy and ask for a likewise reply.
A search of ASIC's professional registery in relation to Trilogy Funds Mangement reveals that the latest update to its licence was in 2009:
" 1 - 18/03/2009
1. This licence authorises the licensee to carry on a financial services business to:
(a) provide financial product advice for the following classes of financial products:
(i) deposit and payment products limited to:
(A) basic deposit products; and
(ii) interests in managed investment schemes limited to:
(A) own managed investment scheme only;
(b) deal in a financial product by:
(i) issuing, applying for, acquiring, varying or disposing of a financial product in respect of the following classes of financial products:
(A) interests in managed investment schemes limited to:
(1) own managed investment scheme only; and
(ii) applying for, acquiring, varying or disposing of a financial product on behalf of another person in respect of the following classes of products:
(A) deposit and payment products limited to:
(1) basic deposit products; and
(B) general insurance products; and
(c) operate the following kinds of registered manage investment schemes (including the holding of any incidental property) in its capacity as responsible entity:
(i) schemes which only hold the following types of property:
(A) direct real property;
(B) financial assets; and
(C) mortgages;
to retail and wholesale clients."
https://connectonline.asic.gov.au/R...9390051447098164&_adf.ctrl-state=16exggr770_4
(if the form comes up blank, just enter Trilogy Funds Management in the organization name, and select the Australian Financial Services Licencee.)
Checking under the authorised rep of an AFSL, there are no enteries for Trilogy.
I am a little confused. Managed to find all you point out about Trilogy and no entries for Trilogy under authorised rep of an AFSL, but on going through the same procedure using 'LM Investment Management Ltd', I can not find anything for them under authorised rep of an AFSL. I am not familiar with searching any of these registers, so maybe I'm looking in the wrong place or entering an incorrect title for LM. Need clarification.
Interested Parties
Well I finally have a Hard and Soft copy of the new RG45 for the LM FMIF and am going through it with interest
Mysteryman, yes us investors in the WFMIF are being shafted regarding the distributions we are OWED, LM's Latest position is because they are no longer the RE then that's Trilogy's issue, despite the fact that these Distributions were accrued and accounted for in past years when LM was the RE. More re this later
Also FYI the Asgard system has just had the Unit Price changed from 0.73 down to 0.59 as from Dec 2102, which Trilogy has said is in INTERIM price only!!!
Also watch what happens with the Capital Distributions proposed in March as the reach Trilogy. We all know they will take a % of whats paid to them, BUT I am informed that Investors will have the Dollars and other details fully disclosed by LM so that we can see the differences re what leaves LM and what WFMIF investors actually receive, IF AND WHEN!!!
My Understanding is that the 59c price is the audited value as at the financial for the 30th June 2012. Financial weren't completed and publsihed until Dec but auditors signed off as at 30th June figures. I am expecting that Dec price will see further deterioration and this is not the fault of Trilogy but clearly the result of LM's incompetence as the fund manager
... Managers have a choice to put the LVR range where they want - it's arbitary when loans are so damaged that the value of the loans have dropped BELOW the security asset values for those loans.
...
... Cause for concern?:
"As at 31 October 2012 there were 21 borrowers. 15.89% of total monies was lent to the Fund’s largest borrower and 79% of total monies was lent to the Fund’s ten largest borrowers. The Fund has one borrower that exceeds 10.00% of the Fund’s assets and 9 borrowers that exceed 5% of the Fund’s assets. As the assets are sold and the number of mortgages decreases it is the Responsible Entity’s expectation that the exposure of the Fund to each borrower will increase." (emphasis added) ...
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