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Labor's carbon tax lie


And his $180,000 Federal salary courtesy of the Australian tax payer. Brrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
The problem with Politicians nowadays is that everytime Mother Nature decides to smack us on the rear, we end up paying a tax on it. Fear is being used to control our lives rather than explaining that S**T happens and it's the way of the world.Carbon is needed. Carbon in history has been more than triple the rate it is today.

That doesn't mean I(and I am sure others) don't think other measures should be put in place to correct the errors of our ways. Our Government should be looking at safer alternatives to offer the taxpayer(not paying off inventors who create cars that run on water) not tax existing industries. That's just going to increase the cost of living because we still need to USE these resources.

In twenty years time there will be too much oxygen and we will end up getting taxed for it.
 

Yes and add to that the 1000 + bureaucrats that have been engaged to administer this stupid carbon(dioxide) tax. Sorry carbon price.
 
I understand your bitterness Smurf. I've often said, take a look at the Green utopia of Tasmania, that's our future, unless we act at the ballot box.
 

I suppose he was not coming up with the goods.
Now the government has installed its own propaganda "spin unit" in Canberra at a wages cost of $630,000, year plus running costs.
It was probably done this way to upset the opposition, every time they walk by.
Well its either that or Combet wants somebody to be an audience when he practises his speeches.
joea
 

And here is another Flannery transcript for you Ghoti - This time from ABC's Lateline from Feb 2007..


And while Flannery doesn't mention rain, he states in the transcript there may not be any arctic ice left by 2012-2022. We have almost reached his first 5 year mark and there is still arctic ice:

Tony Jones speaks with Tim Flannery

And now Flannery has this to say about coal:


Tim Flannery backs coal-seam gas and mining industry
 
According to the latest news poll, 59% (up 6%) oppose the new carbon tax legislation. Australia clearly doesn't want this tax:
I haven't looked at the poll yet but ABC radio reported that The Greens were up, I think, 3 points.

There's a peculiar disconnect here, i.e. that the carbon tax is so unpopular, the Coalition's vote is down, and The Greens' is up.
 
I haven't looked at the poll yet but ABC radio reported that The Greens were up, I think, 3 points.

There's a peculiar disconnect here, i.e. that the carbon tax is so unpopular, the Coalition's vote is down, and The Greens' is up.

From what I understand, Coalition is down 3% and greens are up 3% on primary votes and labor stays the same.

I believe there is up to a 3% margin of error, so it will be interesting to see if this continues to show up on future polling or if it is a glitch.

I agree, it seems strange that coalition voters are going to green and the fact that there has been an increase of 6% against carbon tax legislation makes this apparent shift to the greens from the coalition even more mysterious.
 
And it seems the coalition are confident they can repeal carbon tax quite quickly after a new election:

Tax can be gone in a year at most

it won't be that simple, AGL and Origen (for example) and other smaller businesses will want compensation for building efficient gas plants that will then be unable to compete with coal.

I wouldn't put my house on the Libs completely repealing the tax, there are many business forces acting and Abbott said it is signed in blood but he didn't actually put it in writing and as he himself says, if I say it and its not in writing then it may not occur.
I also can't see him raising taxes so he can implement his direct action policy.

Something will give - I will bet a slab of beers to anyone who believes it will go as Abbott says.
 
There's a peculiar disconnect here, i.e. that the carbon tax is so unpopular, the Coalition's vote is down, and The Greens' is up.

It's the disenchantment with Abbott. He worries me with his ridiculous "pledge in blood."
 
It's the disenchantment with Abbott. He worries me with his ridiculous "pledge in blood."


I know Abbott isn't perfect, but honestly, who else in the coalition would have the fortitude to so relentlessly stand up against the unwanted policies of this government? I know he is powerless to stop legislation going through, but he has at least given the majority of Australians a voice.

Gillard can clearly be a nasty foe and I don't know how Abbott has put up with her screeching tirades in parliament as long as he has. He is accused of being negative, but Gillard can come across as very nasty and bitter and yet that is not spoken about too often.

 

Sails.
I just think your statement sums up what millions of people are thinking.
And you have put it very well!
joea
 
occur.
I also can't see him raising taxes so he can implement his direct action policy.


Add all the other populist promises Abbott's made to the equation and I think your slab of beer is a safe bet.
 
What voters will remember first and foremost at the next election is that Julia Gillard and Labor lied about pricing carbon this term at the last election.
 
It's the disenchantment with Abbott. He worries me with his ridiculous "pledge in blood."
I agree. It's stuff like this that turns voters off. We could never imagine, e.g. John Howard, saying something like this.

Sails: yes, Tony Abbott has been a very effective opposition leader, but there's a huge difference between being an opposition leader and a Prime Minister. So far, with a few exceptions, Mr Abbott imo has not come across as an authoritative figure with sincere convictions that he's not prepared to change according to what he thinks people want to hear.

An exception was a few months ago when he went up to the Northern Territory where he literally sat down in the dirt and had sincere and serious discussions with aboriginal leaders. He has been in discussions with Noel Pearson for many years, and it's quite clear his convictions about the way forward for indigenous people are thoughtful and sincerely held.

It was noticeable that his popularity rating in the poll subsequent to this visit showed a clear increase.
 
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