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Sink your eyes into this.TS, agree about the electricity costs. They must have derived their 'averages' from a bunch of one bedroom pensioner flats.
If push comes to shove, the Greens will back down on this. Labor and the Greens have clearly agreed to coal and steel industry compensation behind closed doors.Labor is kidding itself if it thinks it has snookered the Coalition here. The simple reality is that they are the ones who have taken ownership of a carbon tax what was not going to be introduced under a government Julia Gillard leads.
The Greens have infact snookered Labor into a no-win situation.
"We might support it, it remains to be seen," Senator Brown said. "Agreement for all parties has meant give and take, and this has had its moments, this package, there have been times when it looked like maybe it was not going to make it."
She said that although the introduction of the tax was taking $4.3 billion from the budget and couldn't be offset against the revenue expected to be generated by the tax, the scheme would not be reliant on budget top-ups in the future.
"We have been very transparent about this and when you look at those budget figures you will see most of that cost is in the set up period of the scheme," she said.
"It is the big change for the Australian economy, you would expect it to come with start- and set-up costs and it does. So more than $2 billion of the $4 billion is in the first year of the scheme and when you look, as the scheme gets up and running, then it becomes broadly budget neutral."
The Australian government's plan to pump $13bn into Australia's clean and renewable energy sector is a nod in the right direction. Unfortunately, the details released on Sunday suggest that this investment will subsidise the deployment of existing, inefficient technology.
We have seen this occur elsewhere. Germany, for example, led the world in putting up solar panels, funded by about $70bn in subsidies. Inefficient, uncompetitive solar technology sits on rooftops across a fairly cloudy country. Despite the considerable investment, this delivers just 0.1 per cent of Germany's total energy supply and has a trivial influence on global warming.
THE Federal Government says about 500 companies will pay for the right to pollute - but can't reveal who they are to the public.
Commercial privacy laws prevent the Government from naming companies that will pay for their carbon emissions under the scheme.
It means the companies, and the number of companies, that are forced into paying could remain a mystery.
The Greens have infiltrated Rupy's empire.
WTF? No seriously WTF? We are not allowed to know who the 500 companies are?
Read more: http://www.news.com.au/money/money-...ou/story-e6frfmd9-1226092374055#ixzz0tM70lS5u
Blatant lie! For goodness sake, he is blind if he doesn't see the nitrogen oxide and sulphur oxide particles laying low on windless days. By the way, there is processes available to reduce the stack blight and Australian power stations should be doing this.Great to see someone stick up for coal-fired power stations, in the face of the campaign of lies about them. Terry Caldwell: "... with my many years of practical experience in the power generation industry I knew that all of the claims of 'pollution' from thermal coal-fired power stations are based on untruths.
This is a letter from Terry Caldwell, 25 years experience working in the Electricity Commission of NSW.
It's good to hear from those with practical experience.
http://www.climatesceptics.com.au/documents/on-coal-fired-power-electricity-generation.pdf
This is not a letter to the website, but a local newspaper, and was picked up by climatesceptics.com
From the outset there will be a cash shortfall - the receipts from permits will not cover the costs of compensation (and will only get worse). Has anyone heard anything about where this funding shortfall will be made up from?
What??? That's just unbelievable.WTF? No seriously WTF? We are not allowed to know who the 500 companies are?
Read more: http://www.news.com.au/money/money-...ou/story-e6frfmd9-1226092374055#ixzz0tM70lS5u
If there is no list there is no accountability. Companies that are not effected can still put up their prices under the guise of carbon tax and we will not be able to query them
According to the gracious lady Red Queen it will be "saved" from government expenditure. There was no other explanation after that. I heard it on the radio this afternoon as I was driving home. I mounted the kerb, took out a one legged pensioner walking his dog and laid black marks all the way up the street. Made me feel better.
I would disagree that water (100% renewable) is a more precious commodity than fossil fuels (non-renewable), especially given that we have technology (desalination) for turnin fuel into water but not the reverse.I think I read that the average Aussie electricty bill was $1551 per annum. LOL ... My average per 56 days is over $500 (summer bill , not winter) to run my house. Times this by 6 to make it per annum and I am looking at electricity over $3000 per year. This is an average from the people I talk to in similar circumstances/demographic/modelling.
The result is similar with Natural gas (albeit approximately about half the cost of electricity) Once again similar to people I talk to with the same size house and family.
Am I using too much energy to run my house? If so why is it that the people I am comparing to are similar in their uptake? How is it that the "general" populace can survive on such limited amount of consumption of power?
I am using a LOT less in water than my counterparts even though I am sitting on near double the size of their properties? I also have 2 kitchens and 4 bathrooms in the one house. Slightly more than average comparison. I do not have any solar HWS or rely on any sort of solar panels on the roof for electrickery.
This is done by only using the water we consume (showers and toilets) are restricted to a time limit for showering and my WC's are 6 star rated. My garden has sensors for moisture in the lawn and in the gardens so the reticulation only comes on when required. I am saving close to $600 a year in water compared to my neighbours. (A more precious commodity IMO)
As with all this stuff - it can be done, at a cost...Blatant lie! For goodness sake, he is blind if he doesn't see the nitrogen oxide and sulphur oxide particles laying low on windless days. By the way, there is processes available to reduce the stack blight and Australian power stations should be doing this.
Provide evidence and a source please. An industry professional with 25 years experience seems to disagree with you.Blatant lie! For goodness sake, he is blind if he doesn't see the nitrogen oxide and sulphur oxide particles laying low on windless days. By the way, there is processes available to reduce the stack blight and Australian power stations should be doing this.
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