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Labor's carbon tax lie

I'd like to see something outside the Murdoch press to confirm, but it would seem the carbon tax is looking more lonely by the minute.

Another comment on the same story which makes a good point;

With our dollar headed north to $1.10US and above and then lump another TAX on top of it watch the employers dump this country and move offshore!
 
Yes drsmith, also they should wait untill someone with a brain develops a world standard for pricing it. It is definatelly beyond these bozos.
As we have said on numerous occasions it is about getting more money not about reducing carbon.

Well the cat is starting to come out of the bag, have a read of this.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/newshome/9281523/verve-puts-price-on-clean-switch/

If that doesen't frighten people in W.A I don't know what will. As Tony Abbot says, "It's a great big tax on everything" . It wouldn't be so bad if the government spent the tax wisely to better Australia. But as has been shown $70billion down the gurgler in three and a half years and nothing to show for it.
Strap yourselves in this is going to be an exciting ride. Hope Tony Windsor is up to it, I don't think any of these bozos alighned with Labor are going to get past the next election.
Wait untill they get home and their partners get on their ear.
 
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...bon-call-for-bhp/story-fn59niix-1226046579423

Tony Windsor should get off his high horse and insist that carbon pricing (in whatever form) be put to the people before being introduced.

He needs to remember that Labor relinquished any mandate it had to price carbon dioxide during the election campaign.

These little nobody indie's really grind my gears - who the hell do they think they are? I'm sure Marius Kloppers wants to deal with a weasel like Windsor...

I'm seriously flabbergasted at this carbon tax, labor and anybody who wants to ride the train in on it...I would like to see 1 positive implementation reason?
 
JTLP,
was just getting used to your '..artist formerly known as..' name, but love the avatar.:)
 
So now that the royal wedding is over, the overseas guests will now fly to their various homes or their next destination - many would likely be in their own private or tax funded jets.

I wonder if any of them give any consideration to the supposed Co2 they are adding to world emissions. If Co2 were the problem Gillard is trying to sell, surely she would be trying to do something about her own carbon footprint.

IMO it just adds more weight to the side that this carbon tax is no more than a big money scam.
 
So now that the royal wedding is over, the overseas guests will now fly to their various homes or their next destination - many would likely be in their own private or tax funded jets.

I wonder if any of them give any consideration to the supposed Co2 they are adding to world emissions. If Co2 were the problem Gillard is trying to sell, surely she would be trying to do something about her own carbon footprint.

IMO it just adds more weight to the side that this carbon tax is no more than a big money scam.

The car was running 85% ethanol. That is one car ! i.e. the aston martin.
That's a start.;)
 
JTLP,
was just getting used to your '..artist formerly known as..' name, but love the avatar.:)

Haha thanks - a silly thing to remind me life is a laugh sometimes.

Julia should be rowing a boat across the seas to make it home - her impact will be lessened nicely :). And if she gets picked up as an illegal immigrant and thrown in a detention centre - even better :D

But she does talk a lot of "poop" so her CO2 contribution would be right up there with Coal Power Stations...can't win them all!
 
But she does talk a lot of "poop" so her CO2 contribution would be right up there with Coal Power Stations...can't win them all!
CO2 aside, I'm pretty sure this government will end up creating far more of a general mess than any power station ever could. Everything they touch seems to turn to ****. In contrast, at least a power station does something useful.:2twocents
 
So now it's the option of last resort, a charm offensive. I'm tipping an evening full of girly giggles. Will Marius be there, being 'sexy';) Looks like a re-run of the mining tax stratagems.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...rm-on-carbon-tax/story-fn59niix-1226048722498
BUSINESS leaders have been summoned tomorrow night for a dinner with Julia Gillard on the carbon tax.
The dinner comes as the Prime Minister launches a charm offensive to quell rising anger over her climate change policy.
The dinner at Ms Gillard's Sydney residence, Kirribilli House, will be followed by one-on-one meetings with the business leaders on Thursday where they can air grievances they were not prepared to raise at the dinner.
 
So now it's the option of last resort, a charm offensive. I'm tipping an evening full of girly giggles. Will Marius be there, being 'sexy';) Looks like a re-run of the mining tax stratagems.

Julia hopes to charm them with Tim's cooking.
 
Julia hopes to charm them with Tim's cooking.
Tony Windsor must by now be eating Tim's cooking and worshipping Gaia.

The latest Newspoll found just 30 per cent of respondents supported a carbon tax, while 60 per cent were opposed.

But it found 78 per cent of people believed climate change was real.

Mr Windsor - the most cagey of the crossbenchers on whether he'll eventually support the policy - said it was “incredible” that nearly 80 per cent of voters still believed in climate change, given Tony Abbott's “ferocious” anti-carbon tax campaign.
That's because the majority see the carbon (dioxide) tax as a dud that will do little to manage global climate and the government lied about it at the last election.

Poor Rob Oakshott should just join the Greens and be done with it.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...ns-carbon-revolt/story-fn59niix-1226050289507
 
Tony Windsor is correct when he states nearly 80% of people believe in Climate Change and that includes yours truly.
What these people like Windsor fail to add is that the majority of those 80% do not believe it is made made and the implimentation of a carbon dioxide tax will do absolutely nothing to alter the real reasons for Climate Change and that is natural causes by the Sun.
 
The car was running 85% ethanol. That is one car ! i.e. the aston martin.
That's a start.;)

Pffffffft!!

Ethanol is manufactured from corn etc. - FOOD...using fossil based fuels and fertilizers.

Ethanol is a farce.
 
Tony Windsor is correct when he states nearly 80% of people believe in Climate Change and that includes yours truly.
What these people like Windsor fail to add is that the majority of those 80% do not believe it is made made and the implimentation of a carbon dioxide tax will do absolutely nothing to alter the real reasons for Climate Change and that is natural causes by the Sun.

Yes, the "de-development team" is grasping at any little sliver of truth and spinning it into a headline - as one does when on the last legs of credibility. Fine with me since a huge number of folks across Oz have woken up to this scam.
 
Pffffffft!!

Ethanol is manufactured from corn etc. - FOOD...using fossil based fuels and fertilizers.

Ethanol is a farce.
Waynel
That was a joke, in answer to someone talking about the wedding.
However, sugar mills can produce ethanol for the sugar cane processing.

Now if you think ethanol is a (Pfffffffffft!!)
Check out Brazil sugar industry.
The whole cane industry is set up to take advantage of the sugar price and/or the ethanol price.
Australia produces cars to sell in Brazil which operate on high % of ethanol. They have a number of components different to cars sold in Oz.

Personally I would not use the ethanol blend, as you do not get bang for your buck.

Trials I have carried out prove Premium petrol is the cheapest overall, on touring.
I have never tested it in a city. I have no city or traffic lights.

Cheers
 
Waynel
That was a joke, in answer to someone talking about the wedding.
However, sugar mills can produce ethanol for the sugar cane processing.
Simple maths here.

All the food you eat in a year, only contains about the same amount of energy as 100 litres of petrol. Trouble is, we each use about 1000 litres of petrol a year (not including diesel, kero etc).

No way are we likely to grow ourselves out of this one. We could take the entire country's food and end up with barely enough petrol (not diesel or kero) to run South Australia.

It's not going to work beyond the point of being a minor supplement to conventional fuels unless we come up with some pretty good new technology.
 
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