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Peter Costello may also be in tears over what could have been.
Agree. She has been as responsible as Rudd in the major decisions made, as a member of the gang of four.Her policies? Surely you mean PARTY policy right? Like the party policy she has already contributed to when Mr Rudd was leader.
On the basis of what she has already been a contributor towards I'm quite happy weilding the shears against Ms Dullard. In my eye's she has already hung herself and stabbing Kevin in back only shows that she is a political animal who is looking after number one.
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Sir O
Agree. She has been as responsible as Rudd in the major decisions made, as a member of the gang of four.
She now has a massive debt to the Unions which is pretty concerning.
And to raise a very basic point, hasn't most of the polling over the last couple of months still shown Kevin Rudd was the preferred leader of the Labor Party/Prime Minister over Julia Gillard?
The Labor Party is also apparently assuming that women will be more likely to vote for Gillard than Rudd. I'm not sure that's right at all. I don't see any difference between her and Rudd except that she's more superficially consultative and more personable, has more political astuteness.
There's no reason at all to think any of their policies will be moderated under her leadership.
It will be interesting to see how the miners respond to her request that they withdraw their advertising. Any opinions on this?
Ms Gillard has stated that from today the government advts will be withdrawn.
I'm also guessing she'll go to a fairly early election, where just the time factor will let her get away with some vague promises of being e.g. 'more consultative on the RSPT", "more focused on climate change and an ETS", without having to actually state a definite policy. Then when she's elected, she will be the mouthpiece for whatever the unions say is to happen.
Julia, when one looks back on the history of Labor Governments, particularly at state level, when things go wrong (and it is the norm), the Labor party changes leaders. It seems to work and the naive fall for it every time. Wipe the slate clean and forget about the past mistakes.
Well, how can anyone forget about the BER rort, a Julia Gillard debacle, the Home Insulation debacle which she agreed to. We all know the rest of her mistakes so what will change? Our new Prime Minister will be just as bad as the previous blubbering Prime Minister.
Can someone please explain this, the media keep bringing up the suggestion that one of Rudds downfalls was the backdown on ETS Rudd tried twice to push it but both times was rejected, I can't help but think that the problem wasn't the backdown but the ETS itself I think in the end most people didn't support it?
The Labor Party is also apparently assuming that women will be more likely to vote for Gillard than Rudd. I'm not sure that's right at all. I don't see any difference between her and Rudd except that she's more superficially consultative and more personable, has more political astuteness.
There's no reason at all to think any of their policies will be moderated under her leadership.
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Bevo, the criticism of Rudd's having 'backed down' was on the basis that if he'd really been as passionate about it as he originally indicated, he'd have taken the country to a double dissolution on its being rejected again in the Senate.Can someone please explain this, the media keep bringing up the suggestion that one of Rudds downfalls was the backdown on ETS Rudd tried twice to push it but both times was rejected, I can't help but think that the problem wasn't the backdown but the ETS itself I think in the end most people didn't support it?
Well, that's not really right. If Malcolm Turnbull had won the Liberal leadership ballot instead of Tony Abbott, he would have supported the legislation being passed and Rudd would have succeeded, so he actually did "come within a whisker" of implementing the ETS.I
I note Gillard is claiming that Rudd 'came within a whisper' of implementing the ETS. I don't know where she gets that idea from - as far as I could see, Rudd never even came close to implementing it.
Bevo, the criticism of Rudd's having 'backed down' was on the basis that if he'd really been as passionate about it as he originally indicated, he'd have taken the country to a double dissolution on its being rejected again in the Senate.
He copped the flak for having said repeatedly that climate change was "the greatest moral challenge of our time" and then not having the guts to go to an election on it.
But you're right that by the time it was rejected again by the Senate, the electorate had woken up to the fact that Australia alone engaging in an ETS would not only considerably raise the cost of living here, it would be ludicrously ineffectual as long as the rest of the world did nothing.
Personally I believe Rudd's passion to get the ETS passed before Copenhagen was based on his own desire to strut the world stage at the Summit, boasting that he had legislated for an ETS in Australia, and thus was leading the world. i.e. don't think many believe he really was genuinely passionate about climate change at all, but rather it was an excuse to create another step on his own personal ladder of international recognition.
(That reminds me: I wonder if he'll still be up for that seat at the UN now???)
Well, that's not really right. If Malcolm Turnbull had won the Liberal leadership ballot instead of Tony Abbott, he would have supported the legislation being passed and Rudd would have succeeded, so he actually did "come within a whisker" of implementing the ETS.
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