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Labor after Rudd goes?

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I reckon there could be something in this.
Labor knows that (if they're going to change leaders) they would need to act asap, because of the imminent election in ~Oct 2010. While Rudd is saying no backdown, he intends to fight this damaging war with the miners right through to the election.
Malcolm Turnbull sniping at him about climate change wouldn't be helping either.
 
I just can't see Rudd being prepared to stand down at this stage, and don't see that Julia Gillard would bring any change in policy, just a more likeable personality.

Malcolm Turnbull sniping at him about climate change wouldn't be helping either.
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That's true, but I suspect Mr Turnbull's motives are more about himself than further drawing attention to Mr Rudd's failings.
i.e. It's likely Mr Turnbull will be returned to the leadership of the Libs when Tony Abbott fails to win the election, and he will want to be able to say to all those disaffected Labor voters who were so annoyed about Rudd dropping the ETS that they switched to the Greens that he (Turnbull) had always held climate change to be of paramount importance.
 
Malcolm Turnbull might become leader of the ALP after they lose the election.

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Just when I thought it could not get any worse, I had a horrible thought.

A minority ALP government in bed with the Greens.
 
Our Prime Minister has more grey cells than most. Be sure he'll find a way of looking as if he won the day whilst letting the mining community think they won as well. In the end tax rises will be those he'd decided to introduce a year ago.
 
drsmith said:
Malcolm Turnbull might become leader of the ALP after they lose the election.
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Yep, he'd actually be a better fit there than with the Libs.

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Just when I thought it could not get any worse, I had a horrible thought.

A minority ALP government in bed with the Greens.
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I've also been envisaging this and have the same reaction.

noirua said:
Our Prime Minister has more grey cells than most. Be sure he'll find a way of looking as if he won the day whilst letting the mining community think they won as well. In the end tax rises will be those he'd decided to introduce a year ago.
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I don't know if he has more grey cells than most, but he sure as hell hasn't demonstrated much in the way of empathy or political nous which are actually more important in his job than his IQ.
 
Julia said:
I don't know if he has more grey cells than most, but he sure as hell hasn't demonstrated much in the way of empathy or political nous which are actually more important in his job than his IQ.
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What's the alternative; Tony Abbott, the mad monk and defender of the constitutional monarchy.

Kevin Rudd managed to learn Mandarin to about the highest standard possible. A clever man who will turn adversity to his advantage, the destroyer of John Howard and at the top of his game, wont be beaten by Tony Abbott.
 
Kevin Rudd managed to learn Mandarin to about the highest standard possible. A clever man who will turn adversity to his advantage.
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I don't see the logic in this statement. Much like saying Rudd drinks milk. He is a healthy man who excels at weightlifting.


The destroyer of John Howard and at the top of his game, wont be beaten by Tony Abbott.
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This, for Coalition supporters is more worrying, he ran a good campaign last time.

gg
 
noirua said:
Kevin Rudd managed to learn Mandarin to about the highest standard possible. A clever man who will turn adversity to his advantage, the destroyer of John Howard and at the top of his game, wont be beaten by Tony Abbott.
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Yes I thought the Mandarin would be a bonus. But if anything his personality has put the Chinese off altogether, so fat lot of help that was. A sly man is what I would have labeled him as. SO clever he decided to try and do it all himself. As any business owner knows this can be a fatal decision. But since he wouldn’t know how to run a fish and chip shop, let alone the economy no bloody wonder he gave it a try. Utilizing a strong team, and delegating more of the work load would take the pressure off. And maybe stop trying to do so many things at the same time. Just get one major reform right before you start the next three projects and I would have been happy.
He may be intelligent, but when it comes to getting the job done and managing the tasks, he has no clue. He also has no regard for other peoples money (but they are all like that).
 
noirua said:
the destroyer of John Howard and at the top of his game, wont be beaten by Tony Abbott.
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Howard defeated himself.

Rudd is in the process of achieving the same, but in much faster time. Yep talented man.

Tones won't have to do much 'cept keep his mouth shut.
 
news flash on banner across bottom of TV screen
"Kevin Rudd in a meeting with deputy Julia Gillard amid reports senior Labor figures want to dump him as leader"

Might wash the aloof smirk off his face

Probably bad news for the Libs, bring back Costello please
 
As long as the sandwiches are ok, and the opponents are well dressed, it should go swimmingly.

I hope they do oust Kevin Rudd. Unfortunately Julia Gillard is too much of a socialist for my liking.

I don't like many labor party politicians, (especially hate albanese and Wong), but can tolerate Tanner, he seems to shoot pretty straight.
 
medicowallet said:
I don't like many labor party politicians, (especially hate albanese and Wong), but can tolerate Tanner, he seems to shoot pretty straight.
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I agree on both counts. Interestingly, apparently Tanner was the only one in the so called gang of four to dissent about the massive borrow/spend up at the start of the GFC.

In interviews, he actually listens to the question and mostly answers it seemingly to the best of his ability. Completely different to the others and their parroting of the party line non-answers.

I'd be happy to vote for Tanner. Stephen Smith as Deputy would be fine.
That would be a huge improvement on the present, and also imo much better than Abbott and Bishop.
 
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