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Hardly using your posts as a soap box! Not near sound enough for me to stand on!:
In fact all I did was highlight to your cohort noco, that even you recalled that what he was being so critical of me as hearsay, was in fact part of the gov speech.
Coming from one of the most animated posters on the forum...
3/138 is a little bit of a misnomer.
Rudd is a popularist style politician, in that the polls are more important than getting the right thing done at the right time. I have no doubt that there are more reforms that he may perceive as unpopular that he will include in the first post-election budget, should he be re-elected.
Maybe they should consider a 'land rent tax' for super profits earned on the family homes?
This tax gain could be used to fund housing affordability solutions.
That way all generations will share in the unpredented housing boom.
Oh i forgot that any tax reform for middle Australia is deeply frowned upon
I reiterate Whiskers .....
That is one area I'm seriously hoping they don't go near.
The family home should be sacrosanct in terms of creating wealth for the average 'working family'.
However foreign Land Banking is one issue that I'm pleased has seen a policy reversal to force non residents to sell on leaving the country.
Also, the eternal issue of Negative Gearing (which I generally like and have used) hasn't got much mention yet. That's one that may come after an election.
3/138 is a little bit of a misnomer.
Rudd is a popularist style politician, in that the polls are more important than getting the right thing done at the right time. I have no doubt that there are more reforms that he may perceive as unpopular that he will include in the first post-election budget, should he be re-elected.
Rudd, Swan and Gillard for a start unless as a people we drown them (politically) before the tide goes out.When boom turns to bust we'll see who's not wearing clothes.
Off course Labour's spin will make no mention of the risk:return trade-off inherent in the 'super profits' they are so happy to get their paws into. You do not invest in a high risk mining venture without a significant ROE.
It is just dumb populism this.
Worth repeating again for those criticising a lack of volume of reforms.
Be careful what you wish for... you might get it.
Do we really want more rushed changes and schemes to end up in a scrambled mash or should we be greatful that maybe this time Rudd is showing signs of taking things a bit slower in an effort to, or that the people can speak out to, help to get the implementation right.
Whilst I disagree with the vast majority of Ken Henry's report as being too "inside the box" and just an extension of existing policy I think it is laughable that just two and half recommendations were taken up...before the election. Unfortunately I can't see the opposition's response being any better as they will both be working from the same badly designed report.
The review does not go far enough though. There should be no deductions for wage and salary income and lower marginal rates for all. Emphasis should be on a big increase in the tax free threshold as suggested by Henry. Deductions for investments should only relate to untaxed income from that investment class. EDIT: Capital gains tax should only be on real gains (indexed to inflation). Ultimately, income taxes (including CGT) should be done away with all together (as should middle class welfare) with government services supported purely by consumption/corporate taxes.1) personal income, assessed on a more comprehensive base;
Where company profit is distributed after tax (franked), it should be tax free in the hands of the shareholder. This would preserve the integrity of the corporate tax base.2) business income, designed to support economic growth;
Natural resources belong to us all so it's only fair that the people get a fair return from their exploitation. The extent to which this is reflected by a RRT on top of company tax is a subject for further debate in itself. The level of a RRT should however reflect long term objectives of continued resource extraction.3) economic rents from natural resources and land;
In order of taxes this should be first and cover all consumable items. Investment no and that includes rent. Land should only be subject to a consumption tax to the extent real value is added (via subdivision for example).4) private consumption.
I think you need to get out more whiskers.
LMAO@Nunthewiser ....... Once agan Whiskers you have failed to read what is in front of you. I am trying to get you to the point where I can actually have a meaningful debate without the peripheral, obtuse remarks from your good self. If you actually concentrate and enucleate with clarity, I have seen a few flashes of genuine brilliance only to descend into a hopeless fug of despair with your inarticulate verbosity.
Anyways ...... :horse:
Henry Tax Reform sugested a 40% tax on mining companies BUT also sugested the state royalties be removed. This does not seem to be the case now does it?
Natural resources belong to us all so it's only fair that the people get a fair return from their exploitation. The extent to which this is reflected by a RRT on top of company tax is a subject for further debate in itself. The level of a RRT should however reflect the long term objectives of continued resource extraction.
If the tax base for income/corporate/consumption taxes are robust, why tax land ?
That's double dipping as the money used to purchase that land has allready been taxed.
I'm not sure it's dumb populism... maybe clever, cunning etc
Is the government response to the Henry tax review the ''revolution'' promised?
Yes, increasing compulsory super paid by employers to 12 per cent is itself a significant change for all workers.
9%
No, the government has all but ignored Ken Henry's recommendations in an attempt to be re-elected.
91%
Total votes: 6019.
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