numbercruncher
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Japanese cant pump out many Cars and gadgets without our resources, I rekon they need us more than we need them !
...or could take the US approach and bomb Tokyo.Best they send in the SAS, rescue our good people, arrest the Japanese criminals and scuttle the ship.
...or could take the US approach and bomb Tokyo.:
...or could take the US approach and bomb Tokyo.:
This has been a pretty interesting thread so far. Personally I am against whaling. I think some of the comparisons on the first page were a little ridiculous. It would be interesting to see how many people in Japan were actually pro whaling, I would be surprised if it wasn't a minority - Does anyone know what percentage of the people over there actually eat whale.
Another point I would like to see politicians and activists raise is - where exactly is the research published that has been conducted and what benefits have been taken so far? Why aren't these points used in a more constructive manner when debating the pro's and con's of this practice - I think the whole world would be a bit more accepting if they cured cancer or heart disease as a result of this so called research. To date I think hunger is the only thing that has been cured
Japan has admitted its so-called scientific whaling is a precursor to the resumption of commercial whaling.
TOM IGGULDEN: Even if Mr Potts and Mr Lane are safely delivered from the Yushin Maru, that may not end matters.
Sydney University International Law lecturer, Tim Stephens, says they may have broken an international law passed after the 1985 terrorist hijack of the Achilli Lauro.
TIM STEPHENS: It was an act of force of sorts in actually boarding the vessel without the permission of the Japanese master.
So arguably they come within this convention and there is an Australian law which gives effect to this convention which they could be in breach of if they find themselves within Australian jurisdiction.
So arguably that may well require the Australian Government to take action.
TOM IGGULDEN: Is it something the Australian Government could just ignore and do nothing about?
TIM STEPHENS: Well I'm not so sure about that because one of the things about these counter terrorism conventions of which these Achilli Lauro convention is one, is that it actually requires states' parties to either prosecute offenders or to extradite them to a jurisdiction where they will face prosecution.
TOM IGGULDEN: But the inside of a courtroom is about the furthest thing from Captain Watson's mind as he continues his chase of the Japanese whaling fleet.
PAUL WATSON: I would love to have that case, yeah we could be the first pirates on trial in the 21st Century, but I'll tell you, we had a loophole. And that was that I sent them on board with a letter of intent.
And that letter was very specific in what their intentions were to be given to the Captain, and that will negate any charges of piracy. So I'm not too concerned.
ASHLEY HALL: Captain Paul Watson of the Steve Irwin ending Tom Iggulden's report.
According to this , the 2 hostages will ( arguably) have to be tried under anti-terrorism laws- i.e. no options in the matter.
(THe captain thinks he has it covered though )
http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2007/s2141019.htm
lol -Sounds as though it would be OK to break into someones home as long as you hand them a "letter of intent". Is that what the hostages say gives them the right to board the Japanese vessel. A letter of intent!!! Captain Bligh would never have accepted it. Have you heard the one about Captain Bligh when an intruder on his ship said "Captain you are standing on my foot." Bligh's reply, "Cut off his foot Mr. Christian."
Maybe the Japanese Captain will interogate them in Egypt and then send them to Cuba for 5 years.( Pity Hicks wasn't carrying a letter of intent.)
Sea Shepherd will only accept 'unconditional' Govt help
Posted 1 hour 8 minutes ago
The anti-whaling group Sea Shepherd says it will accept the Australian Government's offer to help defuse a stand-off over two of its crew members, who are being held on a Japanese whaling ship.
The Government has offered to use the customs ship the Oceanic Viking to transfer the two men, Benjamin Potts and Briton Giles Lane from the Japanese ship to the Sea Shepherd ship the Steve Irwin.
The captain of the Steve Irwin, Paul Watson, says he will cooperate with the Government as long as there is no conditions attached to the exchange.
"Yes we certainly would but nobody from the Government has been in contact with us," he said.
"I don't know where the Oceanic Viking is, we're right near the Yushin Maru II.
"We'll certainly cooperate. We'd like to get them back."
Mr Watson rejected suggestions the pair of protesters acted legally.
"They went on board with a letter of intent," he said.
"There's a precedent set for that and it would be a good defence if there's any charges."
Foreign Affairs Minister Stephen Smith says the Oceanic Viking is in the region and is trying to seek the cooperation of all parties.
"What is required now to transfer those two men is the agreement of the Japanese Government, which we have, the agreement of the Australian Government, which we have," Mr Smith said.
"We now need the full and complete cooperation of the two vessels, the two captains and the two men concerned."
He says he is expecting the parties to cooperate and if that cooperation is not forthcoming from either skipper he would question their motives.
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