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Jacinda Ardern announces resignation as New Zealand Prime Minister

So, does anyone have a real reason why she quit? All the MSM (except Sky) want to write about is how young and wonderful she is.

Just believe what she said that she's a gutless weak 42-year-old?
Pushed out by her party?
Realized she wouldn't win the next election and bailed?
Promised a lucrative job by the WEF elites?
ABC said she was tired and also knew she had little hope of winning the election. It's been tough, she gets heaps of vileness from the alt right, had the mass murder, covid, volcano, Christchurch.

She planned massive building of cheap homes but many factors stopped much happening. Economy doing it tough due to rising prices and lack of tourism.

There's no conspiracy, she could see her time was over.
 
"alt right" :laugh:

FFS

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Is that right, thanks for giving me the heads up, when I go out to Kalgoorlie, i'll personally thank the bouncers. :roflmao:

You do know that the only reason New Zealanders weren't the first people to the moon, was because they ran out of scaffold. ?

I have no idea what you’re trying to say. I can only presume that you are still bowing to the King & saluting the Yanks on the other side of the globe. ?
 
ABC said she was tired and also knew she had little hope of winning the election. It's been tough, she gets heaps of vileness from the alt right, had the mass murder, covid, volcano, Christchurch.

She planned massive building of cheap homes but many factors stopped much happening. Economy doing it tough due to rising prices and lack of tourism.

There's no conspiracy, she could see her time was over.
Who knew being a leader was a tough gig? I thought it was a cake walk and everything was supposed to be wonderful and just like a Vogue photoshoot every day. I agree she probably did see her time was over and just bailed, but I believe if she was riding high in the polls that she probably would have stuck around. I'm still curious as to why her popularity plummeted so much?

Her speech did not sound genuine, it sounded like it was written by ChatGPT (maybe someone could ask it to write a resignation speech for a PM?) a lot of one liner soundbites worthy of a kindergarten teacher, but maybe that's always how she talks.

"With such a privileged role comes responsibility"
"Cumulative challenges faced as a team"
"I consider the hardest of moments to be a privilege"


 
So, does anyone have a real reason why she quit? All the MSM (except Sky) want to write about is how young and wonderful she is.

Just believe what she said that she's a gutless weak 42-year-old?
Pushed out by her party?
Realized she wouldn't win the next election and bailed?
Promised a lucrative job by the WEF elites?

I presume that the Party leadership had a talk with her & there was two ways it could have gone: the messy & degrading way we done it in Australia several times, or with humility & grace.

At least Arden knew that her time was up and leaving as she did has given her party time to rebuild, and left New Zealand politics on a higher level than some other countries with a similar system.
 
Ardern was great at spinning bull and kicking it with late night hosts. Realistically she didn't do much with policy. No taking away everyone's guns wasn't good as it was an Aussie that actually did the shooting.
 
Though I think the article is a bit harsh, I agree with most of it.

Jacinda Ardern was a dreadful prime minister of New Zealand who failed in substance but succeeded wildly in image.

All her economic instincts were bad, all her strategic instincts were bad. She had a great desire to undo productive economic reform and remove or shut down the engines of economic growth for what should be a nation of limitless opportunity.

Nonetheless, for a time, she was very successful politically.

She had one genuine achievement. She reacted with dignity and moral seriousness to the appalling Christchurch terrorist massacre.

Most democratic leaders do well in such situations. John Howard did after Port Arthur. George W Bush’s popularity soared as he comforted the victims of 9/11 at ground zero.

Nonetheless, as a leader you can’t fake it, you have to do it. She certainly did it and she deserves credit for that.

After that, well, the achievement cupboard is pretty bare. Ardern did keep Covid at bay for a significant amount of time. That’s because New Zealand is an isolated island. We got much the same outcome for much the same reason. So did the leaders of Fiji, Vanuatu and Solomon Islands.

Closing your borders was for a time the right thing for an isolated island nation to do. It didn’t require political genius.

Of course Ardern, from the left of her party, instituted one of the most draconian lockdowns outside China itself. Sometimes she made Dan Andrews look like a Milton Friedman/Ayn Rand libertarian.

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Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern hugs a mosque-goer at the Kilbirnie Mosque in 2019 after the Christchurch mass shooting.

There was a time when saucy, freewheeling Melburnians could get takeaway coffees from cafes, and New Zealanders could not even do that.

In substance, Ardern was a flop. She didn’t do the things she promised to do when first elected in 2017. She promised the government would build 100,000 homes, it built barely 1000.

She was a big cheese on climate change, but New Zealand’s emissions, before Covid, went up.

Public service emphasis was meant to focus on the regions of the country. Instead, all power, and many more public servants, went to Wellington.

Ardern talked a good game on human rights in the abstract, but under her leadership New Zealand was a tiny, frightened mouse when it came to Beijing.

Of course, her government did nothing to revive New Zealand’s substantially non-existent defence forces.

It also frequently bugged out of any remote solidarity with nations and groups trying to hold China to account for human rights, or to moderate Beijing’s behaviour on strategic issues.

When Wellington finally joined in efforts to limit Beijing’s clout in the South Pacific, Ardern strenuously argued that the dispute must not be seen as a conflict between democracy and authoritarianism.

But her failure in substance did not much dim Ardern’s international star, for we live in an age of political cryptocurrency, paid out in celebrity bitcoin. Ardern was a perfect princess of woke.

She was young, unmarried, had a child in office and her partner was a stay-at-home dad, and she spoke the woke dialect with a native fluency. Naturally, Manhattan swooned.

The apotheosis of this reality-free Jacindamania came when The New York Times’ Maureen Dowd interviewed first Scott Morrison, then Ardern.

Dowd heaped contempt on Morrison, whom she accused of being Donald Trump’s poodle, and defining his political persona by hostility to foreigners and immigrants.

In contrast, Dowd lavished praise on Ardern – she was barefoot during their interview, her partner was a stay-at-home dad, wow, gosh, golly.

Dowd hailed Ardern as one of a courageous group of young leaders challenging Trump. Yet, as my colleague Paul Kelly observed at the time, Dowd did not mention a single policy of Ardern’s government. (Policies are so boring.)

Yet Morrison was actually pro-immigration. Under all Liberal prime ministers since John Howard, Australia has taken vastly more immigrants, per capita, than New Zealand has. Not only that, Australia takes far more international refugees, per capita, than New Zealand does.

But actually doing real stuff in the real world butters no parsnips in the virtual reality of celebrity land. In that strange universe, Queen Jacinda for a time reigned without challenge.

GREG SHERIDAN
FOREIGN EDITOR

 
John Keys was a great PM and Jacinda Adern defintely didn't come close to matching him, but unlike what "The Australian" published, she did have some legislative successes.

But the sht she had to put up with.

Quoting actor Sam Neill who said he was unsurprised about her decision to resign "Her treatment, the pile on, in the last few months has been disgraceful and embarrassing. All the bullies, the misogynists, the aggrieved. She deserved so much better."

I was reading about some of it. Just nasty, her teeth, her cnt.

I was going to provide a link but it only gives some people the jollies. What happened to people being nice?

It's about excessive polarisation.
The left were totally over the top with St Jacinda, the right totally the other way as The Woke Queen.

I like to think that most people are like me and reject these extremes as fetishism.
 
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John Keys was a great PM and Jacinda Adern defintely didn't come close to matching him, but unlike what "The Australian" published, she did have some legislative successes.

But the sht she had to put up with.

Quoting actor Sam Neill who said he was unsurprised about her decision to resign "Her treatment, the pile on, in the last few months has been disgraceful and embarrassing. All the bullies, the misogynists, the aggrieved. She deserved so much better."

I was reading about some of it. Just nasty, her teeth, her cnt.

I was going to provide a link but it only gives some people the jollies. What happened to people being nice?

It's about excessive polarisation.
The left were totally over the top with St Jacinda, the right totally the other way as The Woke Queen.

I like to think that most people are like me and reject these extremes as fetfetish
Populists generally reap what they sow.
There wasn't this kind of division before in nz to the degree there is now. She was the Trudeau of nz and made feverish political zombies either side
 
Populists generally reap what they sow.
There wasn't this kind of division before in nz to the degree there is now. She was the Trudeau of nz and made feverish political zombies either side

Maybe like Morrison she is suffering from the covid fallout.

Although it didn't seem to do Dan Andrews any damage.
 
Populists generally reap what they sow.
There wasn't this kind of division before in nz to the degree there is now. She was the Trudeau of nz and made feverish political zombies either side

There was much worse division in NZ politics in the late 80's, with multi-coalition parties having to run the country for a very long time.
 
John Keys was a great PM and Jacinda Adern defintely didn't come close to matching him, but unlike what "The Australian" published, she did have some legislative successes.

But the sht she had to put up with.

Quoting actor Sam Neill who said he was unsurprised about her decision to resign "Her treatment, the pile on, in the last few months has been disgraceful and embarrassing. All the bullies, the misogynists, the aggrieved. She deserved so much better."

I was reading about some of it. Just nasty, her teeth, her cnt.

I was going to provide a link but it only gives some people the jollies. What happened to people being nice?

It's about excessive polarisation.
The left were totally over the top with St Jacinda, the right totally the other way as The Woke Queen.

I like to think that most people are like me and reject these extremes as fetishism.
Interesting post for someone with extreme TDS... extreme of fetishism? LMAO, the epitome of hypocrisy.

There are two Jacinda Arderns.

1/ The compassionate, womanly, empathetic, crafted public persona Jacinda.

This sucks people in but also has benefits in the public discourse. It was a good thing during the Christchurch situation (even if there was an element of pandering)

2/ The globalist, authoritarian/totalitarian Jacinda who converted the liberal and pleasant NZ, into a divided and dystopian shXtshow.

Points of agreement:
Not a patch on John Keys (but how do you think she defeated him without villainizing him?)
Yes, she had t put up with shXt.

Points of disagreement:
Every politician has to put up with shXt... ALL of them. If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the damned kitchen.

In this "Brave New World" of woke equality/equity, non-binarism, male/female, man/woman, where men can be pregnant and women can impregnate, it is unreasonable to expect that a person (notionally a woman in today's parlance) should expect any different treatment than any other "person".

No, this is a tactical retreat with the goal of some globalist position in mind.

Watch and learn.
 
Every politician has to put up with shXt... ALL of them. If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the damned kitchen.

No one should have to put up with death threats, and I don't know why politicians just shrug them off. One day it might actually happen.

People who make threats of violence against anyone, politicians or not are committing a crime, and crimes should be punished.

Those doing it should be hunted down, identified and prosecuted.
 
Interesting post for someone with extreme TDS... extreme of fetishism? LMAO, the epitome of hypocrisy.

There are two Jacinda Arderns.

1/ The compassionate, womanly, empathetic, crafted public persona Jacinda.

This sucks people in but also has benefits in the public discourse. It was a good thing during the Christchurch situation (even if there was an element of pandering)

2/ The globalist, authoritarian/totalitarian Jacinda who converted the liberal and pleasant NZ, into a divided and dystopian shXtshow.

Points of agreement:
Not a patch on John Keys (but how do you think she defeated him without villainizing him?)
Yes, she had t put up with shXt.

Points of disagreement:
Every politician has to put up with shXt... ALL of them. If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the damned kitchen.

In this "Brave New World" of woke equality/equity, non-binarism, male/female, man/woman, where men can be pregnant and women can impregnate, it is unreasonable to expect that a person (notionally a woman in today's parlance) should expect any different treatment than any other "person".

No, this is a tactical retreat with the goal of some globalist position in mind.

Watch and learn.

What did she do that you thought was wrong?
 
No one should have to put up with death threats, and I don't know why politicians just shrug them off. One day it might actually happen.

People who make threats of violence against anyone, politicians or not are committing a crime, and crimes should be punished.

Those doing it should be hunted down, identified and prosecuted.
Agreed!

Whether it's Jacinda, The God Emporer, or whomever.
 
No one should have to put up with death threats, and I don't know why politicians just shrug them off. One day it might actually happen.

People who make threats of violence against anyone, politicians or not are committing a crime, and crimes should be punished.

Those doing it should be hunted down, identified and prosecuted.

Yes 51 death threats last year, over 100 total. I see no excuses for this behaviour.
 
Yes 51 death threats last year, over 100 total. I see no excuses for this behaviour.
This is just her party shifting the frame.
She had recently stuffed the farmers with a few stupid ideas and got wedged by the Maori council on co-governance issues. Activists were unwilling to compromise so much that everyone now looses.

She was lacking with delivery on a lot of issues, got wedged and basically only had one way out of it.
 
What did she do that you thought was wrong?
More than everything else, imposing the globalist, WEF agenda

In particular, the whole China cold response... authoritarianism/totalitarianism imposed on liberal western democracy. This was so far out of political expectations (g'mint the *only source of truth, FFS? Get the fck right out of town!)

Watch for where she turns up bro, that will answer your question.
 
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