Is Shorten PM material?

[noco]

Tell your story walking mister Shorten....



http://www.news.com.au/national/bre...-union-questions/story-e6frfku9-1227405158161

Mr Shorten is going to struggle to satisfy the RC.....He has too much stacked against him with documentary evidence....
\How can he prove that workers were not disadvantaged?

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opi...406509452?sv=f691a09ea8791649d19ee4936d412df7

Recently, in the Heydon royal commission, emails between an employer and the AWU were read out. The parties haggled back and forth over the price of then secretary Paul Howes’s signature on a document that would save the company $2 million a year in labour costs. When the price was agreed at $25,000, the executive wrote back to the AWU chap, “Sweet, mate, can you send me the details of who and where to send cheque to?” This conduct is indefensible and I challenge anyone out there to defend

 

[noco]

Shorten has only himself to blame for the problems confronting his future.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...f-his-own-making/story-e6frg6z6-1227406536387

Shorten has no such simple answer in trying to stem the flow of political misjudgments. Labor started the work with an all-out attack on the government over allegations the Australian Secret Intelligence Service paid people- smugglers to turn back boats to *Indonesia but ran into a brick wall when it was disclosed Labor has set aside at least $21 million for such “disruption” payments during the Rudd and Gillard governments.

Shorten was reduced to a hairsplitting argument that Labor may have paid money to people-smugglers on land but hadn’t done so to turn back a boat. He looked ridiculous and beat a retreat.

The bigger issue for questioning Shorten’s judgment this week was his decision to oppose the $2.4 billion pension savings from the 2015 budget. After back-pedalling on cuts in the previous budget, the Coalition came up with sensible cuts to part-pension payments for those with assets of $1m over and above the family home.

Labor’s opposition cost it economic credibility and an ability to be able to claw back some of the $41bn in savings it has to find. That the Greens did a deal within hours of Labor’s announcement only doubled the pain for Labor.

But still there was no damaging outbreak of leaks from Labor. The simple fact is that Labor doesn’t want the leadership to change, it wants the leader to change.

 

[dutchie]

Cassidy to interview Shorten on Insiders today (9.00 am).

How hard will he go?

 

[noco]

Cassidy to interview Shorten on Insiders today (9.00 am).

How hard will he go?

Very softly indeed......Cassidy let him have the floor......What else would you expect from Cassidy.....All Shorten had to say was it always gave workers a good deal and pigs might fly as we all know.

Get on him the Bolt report and it will a different story but Shorten is too much of a coward to front Bolt.

 

[SirRumpole]

Get on him the Bolt report and it will a different story but Shorten is too much of a coward to front Bolt.

Funny, I've never seen Abbott on Insiders either.

 

[drsmith]

Funny, I've never seen Abbott on Insiders either.

http://www.abc.net.au/insiders/content/2012/s3838363.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/insiders/content/2014/s4006775.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/insiders/content/2014/s4049697.htm

 

[noco]

http://www.abc.net.au/insiders/content/2012/s3838363.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/insiders/content/2014/s4006775.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/insiders/content/2014/s4049697.htm

Good one Doc.

Obviously Rumpy does not watch Insiders.

I would say egg on face.

 

[dutchie]

Funny, I've never seen Abbott on Insiders either.

http://www.abc.net.au/insiders/content/2012/s3838363.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/insiders/content/2014/s4006775.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/insiders/content/2014/s4049697.htm

That is funny.

 

[SirRumpole]

Good one Doc.

Obviously Rumpy does not watch Insiders.

I would say egg on face.

Three times in how many years ?

 

[drsmith]

Three times in how many years ?

Still 3-Nil.

 

[noco]

Three times in how many years ?

Rumpy you stated Abbott had not been on the Insiders and now you are complaining he has only been on 3 times in 3 years.

Albo fronted Bolt this morning when it should have been Shorten....No guts ...no glory

Shorten nil on the Bolt report......What a coward !!!!!!!!!!!

 

[explod]

Rumpy you stated Abbott had not been on the Insiders and now you are complaining he has only been on 3 times in 3 years.

Albo fronted Bolt this morning when it should have been Shorten....No guts ...no glory

Shorten nil on the Bolt report......What a coward !!!!!!!!!!!

Excuse me noco, why would anyone supporting the battlers go anywhere near Bolt.

As with the right wing campaign against Gillard, so too will this fail.

Did you know noco that the friendly children's program of Peter Rabbit is very good to turn off your hatred of fellow man.

The Rabbit (Mr) is part way there with God, just have to get him to comprehend that God is crapola.

In summary, the negative campaign is failing and the ALP Green vote will be even higher next month.

You not only have to tell me, (the sixth request) but now show, WHERE ARE THE JOBS COMING FROM noco, ole Pal

 

[noco]

Excuse me noco, why would anyone supporting the battlers go anywhere near Bolt.

As with the right wing campaign against Gillard, so too will this fail.

Did you know noco that the friendly children's program of Peter Rabbit is very good to turn off your hatred of fellow man.

The Rabbit (Mr) is part way there with God, just have to get him to comprehend that God is crapola.

In summary, the negative campaign is failing and the ALP Green vote will be even higher next month.

You not only have to tell me, (the sixth request) but now show, WHERE ARE THE JOBS COMING FROM noco, ole Pal

Anthony Albo was on the Bolt Report this morning so I guess you would put him in the same category as Abbott...So Albo does not support the battlers.

Jobs, jobs, jobs....Don't you read the news....unemployment has dropped...It used to be 4% under Howard and jumped to 6% + under Labor....The jobs are starting to appear with small business since Abbott took the initiative with incentives for the power house of the country.....

Shorten did dirty deals with companies which stripped the rights of workers...Check out the deal Shorten did with Cleanevent....Shorten conned companies into signing up members to his union without their knowledge....It is normal for workers who want to a member of a union to sign a form.....Did Shorten forge their signatures?

 

[IFocus]

Anthony Albo was on the Bolt Report this morning so I guess you would put him in the same category as Abbott...So Albo does not support the battlers.

Jobs, jobs, jobs....Don't you read the news....unemployment has dropped...It used to be 4% under Howard and jumped to 6% + under Labor....The jobs are starting to appear with small business since Abbott took the initiative with incentives for the power house of the country.....

Shorten did dirty deals with companies which stripped the rights of workers...Check out the deal Shorten did with Cleanevent....Shorten conned companies into signing up members to his union without their knowledge....It is normal for workers who want to a member of a union to sign a form.....Did Shorten forge their signatures?

So Shorten has only ever ripped off workers for his own self benefit and Abbott and Bolt have only ever fought for workers rights and entitlements.....

It a strange world.

 

[drsmith]

It a strange world.

So strange that Fairfax through the SMH has turned on him and it seems his biggest defender relatively speaking is now what you refer to as the Liberal Daily.

He probably has his last interview on Insiders today.

 

[Tisme]

In summary, the negative campaign is failing and the ALP Green vote will be even higher next month.

One would have thought that the LNP would have learned about public backlash from the debacle that was the Newman Govt in QLD. Same use of taxpayer monies and Newscorp to pursue the hate they have for the ALP (and presumably their voter base). It's like they swallowed the Jewish book of how to sue and intimidate using the judiciary and media.

 

[drsmith]

One would have thought that the LNP would have learned about public backlash from the debacle that was the Newman Govt in QLD. Same use of taxpayer monies and Newscorp to pursue the hate they have for the ALP (and presumably their voter base). It's like they swallowed the Jewish book of how to sue and intimidate using the judiciary and media.

Is it now really that indigestible to talk about Bill ?

That after all is what this thread is about.

 

[Tisme]

Is it now really that indigestible to talk about Bill ?

That after all is what this thread is about.

Yes it's about Bill and the various influences that are shaping his laziness and ineffectiveness as he grows into the role as a seat warming pollie.

 

[drsmith]

Yes it's about Bill and the various influences that are shaping his laziness and ineffectiveness as he grows into the role as a seat warming pollie.

It's up to Bill to be the Bill (or Due) he is (he has been).

 

[IFocus]

So strange that Fairfax through the SMH has turned on him and it seems his biggest defender relatively speaking is now what you refer to as the Liberal Daily.

He probably has his last interview on Insiders today.

Its an absurd situation where those that have invested a life time attacking workers rights and conditions are held up as credible to criticize one who has spent a life time doing the opposite.

Anyone with a moral fiber would recognize the political abuse of this royal commission.

If the lid was ever lifted on the Liberal party connections to money and influence................