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Is Shorten PM material?

Is Shorten PM material?

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    Votes: 6 16.2%

  • No

    Votes: 31 83.8%
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Bill clearly hasn't got the balls to get Stephen Conroy to apologise to Lieutenant General Angus Campbell. To make matters worse for himself, he had to apologise for this in relation to his defence of Stephen Conroy in Parliament yesterday,

Trying to deflect attention from Senator Conroy's attack on General Campbell, Mr Shorten told the House on Wednesday: ''What I also know is that . . . when Chief of Army General Gillespie was at estimates it was Senator Ronaldson who called him a coward,'' during debate on a motion to admonish Senator Conroy.

''I'm sure that, given his time again, Senator Ronaldson might have chosen his words differently,'' Mr Shorten said.
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Bill couldn't substantiate this and at 7.26pm he was pack in the House to correct the record and apologise.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...defence-on-stephen-conroy-20140227-33jbi.html
 
drsmith said:
Bill clearly hasn't got the balls to get Stephen Conroy to apologise to Lieutenant General Angus Campbell.
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Doesn't Conroy's power broker status in the Right mean that Shorten owes him in terms of Conroy supporting Shorten for the leadership?
 
Julia said:
Doesn't Conroy's power broker status in the Right mean that Shorten owes him in terms of Conroy supporting Shorten for the leadership?
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Possibly, Conroy is a ruthless numbers player.

Normally in parliament both sides will defend the indefensible.
 
IFocus said:
Normally in parliament both sides will defend the indefensible.
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The Gillard government got the gold with Craig Thompson.

Not satisfied with that, they also stole the silver from around the necks of the Libs with Peter Slipper.

That's 1-2 to Labor.
 
Ashby to get his day in the dock as appeal upheld. Look out Mr Slipper !

"The inappropriate sexualised remarks were conveyed by Slipper. Ashby's responses were either to ignore them, rebuff them or attempt to change the subject."
Outside the court, Mr Harmer said: "It is gratifying that the court found that I was treated unfairly and that the adverse findings made about me ought not to have been made.
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Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...ter-slipper-20140227-33kh0.html#ixzz2uVfBhuTG

Maybe Shorten needs another Beaconsfield mine collapse to re-energise his political career. :D
 
His performance over Qantas, probably not.

He's as muddled as the Abbott Government on providing a consistent message.

We're heading for a recession in the next 12 months. Even if the RBA brings in MP then provides us with ZIRP it still wont stop unemployment heading towards 8%. The only way forward is to ensure everyone feels the pain of what's coming is being fairly shared. Anything else will lead to resistance and a bigger downturn in the economy.
 
drsmith said:
The Gillard government got the gold with Craig Thompson.

Not satisfied with that, they also stole the silver from around the necks of the Libs with Peter Slipper.

That's 1-2 to Labor.
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Fraid not senator Mal Colston gold medal..............
 
sydboy007 said:
His performance over Qantas, probably not.

He's as muddled as the Abbott Government on providing a consistent message.

We're heading for a recession in the next 12 months. Even if the RBA brings in MP then provides us with ZIRP it still wont stop unemployment heading towards 8%. The only way forward is to ensure everyone feels the pain of what's coming is being fairly shared. Anything else will lead to resistance and a bigger downturn in the economy.
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I have to say Bill is not particularly assertive in Question Time. Neither is anyone else in Labor except perhaps Tony Burke.

The answers from the government verge on ludicrous, eg Malcolm Turnbulls drama queen performance about Conroy, a subject which has nothing to do with his portfolio whatever.

Tony Abbott does usually give calm and measured answers, even if they always say the same thing no matter what question was asked. I think people are getting sick of the same excuses about carbon tax, mining tax and stop the boats.
 
At least one ex Labor MP member is exhibiting some common sense....what a shame he retired.

Martin Ferguson certainly won't be the best friend of Bill Shorten today.

Perhaps there are some current Labor MP's who think the same way but are scared to speak their minds in fear of being ostracized....oh yes they must follow party lines



http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/...r_free_our_workplaces_and_cut_the_subsidies_/
 
But Mr Conroy and his boss, Opposition Leader Bill Shorten, appeared to be attempting to replicate another movie yesterday ”” Dumb and Dumber. Mr Shorten was forced to apologise to Minister for Veteran’s Affairs Michael Ronaldson after accusing him in parliament of calling another decorated officer a “coward” seven years ago. It is understood another Labor MP had told him just before he rose to speak on the matter that Mr Ronaldson had referred to former army chief General Ken Gillespie as a “coward.”
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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...-bungle-brothers/story-fni0xqrc-1226839986031

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Shorten and his union hacks just don't seem to savvy nor are they learning any lessons on the damage they keep doing to workers.......Haven't the unions done enough damage over the years....is it any wonder unemployment is rising and now the unions are talking about going on strike if Quantas sacks 5000.

I would like to see the unions trying to run a large corporation.....they would go broke in no time......Bob Hawke tried it some years ago and it did not take long for that venture fold......just can't remember the business for now.



http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...isbane-worksites/story-e6freon6-1226842525135
 
noco said:
Shorten and his union hacks just don't seem to savvy nor are they learning any lessons on the damage they keep doing to workers.......Haven't the unions done enough damage over the years....is it any wonder unemployment is rising and now the unions are talking about going on strike if Quantas sacks 5000.

I would like to see the unions trying to run a large corporation.....they would go broke in no time......Bob Hawke tried it some years ago and it did not take long for that venture fold......just can't remember the business for now.



http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...isbane-worksites/story-e6freon6-1226842525135
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. Bourke's ACTU store, in central Melbourne, was a project of Bob Hawke as ACTU secretary. Hawke was strongly influenced by the corporatist Israeli Histadruth trade union federation, which is closely integrated with the Israeli state, and a large employer, running numerous co-operatives and holding companies in areas such as transportation and banking. The ACTU successfully used its link with Bourkes to challenge and break price controls imposed on retailers and the public by some large companies.

This all I could find on the Hawke venture......It does not state the year or how long it lasted......I do know it did not last too long and it was closed because of massive losses.
 
Got himself into a pickle over the returning troops thanks to Stephen Conroy. That bloke (Conroy) is a fool of the highest order, Shorten would do well to get rid of him.
 
I must admit to not studying Shorten closely, my impression is of "Unions and Girls", though this may be harsh, just my impression.

Whether he can lead the ALP back to government is moot. We have been blessed with Prime Ministers of less talent than Bill.

Hawke and Fraser, come to mind.

gg
 

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