Iraq was about oil: Alan Greenspan

[nizar]

I'd rather have a nerdy, clever geek running my country than a handsome puppet like bush.

Are you serious ? LOL, you should check out this site.

 

[Aussiejeff]

I wasn't aware that the White House consulted the FOMC before making national policy decisions.


Either way, nothing wrong with a bit of blood for oil. It just depends on the exchange rate.

Hmmm.

It seems in reality, much of the blood being spilt by the US is actually on American home soil...

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120 US war veteran suicides a week

From correspondents in New York
November 15, 2007 09:47am

THE US military is experiencing a "suicide epidemic" with veterans killing themselves at the rate of 120 a week, according to an investigation by US television network CBS.

At least 6256 US veterans committed suicide in 2005 - an average of 17 a day - the network reported, with veterans overall more than twice as likely to take their own lives as the rest of the general population.

While the suicide rate among the general population was 8.9 per 100,000, the level among veterans was between 18.7 and 20.8 per 100,000.

That figure rose to 22.9 to 31.9 suicides per 100,000 among veterans aged 20 to 24 - almost four times the non-veteran average for the age group.

"Those numbers clearly show an epidemic of mental health problems,'' CBS quoted veterans' rights advocate Paul Sullivan as saying.

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You can read the full article here:

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22762457-5005961,00.html

It's time GWB and his cronies officially came clean on the real cost of this War on Terror. It beggars belief the way his administration is running the US.

AJ

 

[numbercruncher]

I remeber hearing/reading the Trillion already spent would of been enough to roll out Green energy across the whole USA, making their need for foreign Oil a fraction of what it is now, They say another Trillion will be spent before Iraq is finished, Imagine what that could of acheived.

Beggers belief doesnt it .....

 

[tronic72]

Are you serious ? LOL, you should check out this site.

It's all relative. We talking about very slim pickings and I grading on a curve

 

[tronic72]

I remeber hearing/reading the Trillion already spent would of been enough to roll out Green energy across the whole USA, making their need for foreign Oil a fraction of what it is now, They say another Trillion will be spent before Iraq is finished, Imagine what that could of acheived.

Beggers belief doesnt it .....

Sure does. It really makes me sad. Just like the current pre-spending by Howard and Rudd.

It makes a good case for politicians to have longer terms so they aren't so short sighted. (Yeah I know that's scary too)

 

[tradingforwealth]

Just remember oil is everything, we need oil for transport/producing goods and it would be detrimental to all of us if the oil is not protected, until we find an alternative. You will find oil is in most of the products we use too.

You can't really blame the US for this, I mean it is helping you out (society) in some way even if you don't realise this. If oil is not controlled, everything will inflated because the cost of producing and transporting goods would sky rocket! (until we find another alternative that is). So maybe in a way we do need this to happen until a solution is found.

 

[Kimosabi]

Just remember oil is everything, we need oil for transport/producing goods and it would be detrimental to all of us if the oil is not protected, until we find an alternative. You will find oil is in most of the products we use too.

You can't really blame the US for this, I mean it is helping you out (society) in some way even if you don't realise this. If oil is not controlled, everything will inflated because the cost of producing and transporting goods would sky rocket! (until we find another alternative that is). So maybe in a way we do need this to happen until a solution is found.

This is crap, there are a multitude of alternatives to oil but these technologies have been suppressed by the oil companies to keep us enslaved to oil.



Stanley Meyer died a few years ago, but others have now replicated his water fuel cells and the schematics to make your own are floating around the Internet.

There are a number of people who are making more basic Water Fuel Cells for about $100 worth of parts and are getting at least 20% better fuel economy, more power and without having to modify their engines.

The process is very simple, using the surplus energy your car produces, you break the water into hydrogen and oxygen and feed the HHO gas straight into your carbie. For modern cars the oxygen sensor's need to be deactivated.

To run on pure HHO most engines need to modified.

Basic ingredients to make your own Water Fuel Cells:

PVC Piping
non magnetic Stainless Steel
Distilled Water
Bi-carbonate of Soda

 

[arminius]

ABSOLUTE ROT TRADINGFOR WEALTH!

how about ummm buying it from them?.
oil is more expensive now than pre invasion days.
if every country dropped bombs each time thay wanted a resource...........

 

[tradingforwealth]

You are right but to implement is expensive and in order for this to work is for companies to start using this technology. It has been tested on cars but what about planes and massive trucks.

Oil is in everything, they tested a normal house and found 90% of the products in the house were made with oil.

But I don't doubt it will eventually be implemented but it will just take time, ie when they find that oils reserves are really low!


I am not replying to this anymore as I cannot do anything about it.

 

[numbercruncher]

if every country dropped bombs each time thay wanted a resource...........

Yup exactly, War for oil is Pathetic, especially because there are cost effective alternatives to drive down supply needs.

Imagine how tasty Australia must look to resource poor Countries around the world. Australia could probably bring the world economy to a grinding halt if we refused to sell all that stuff out of the holes in the ground.

Now all those people who think that Blood for Oil is ok, you are bringing the rest of us normal people your bad Karma, If we get invaded for our goodies one day, it is that OK ? same principle isnt it ? always nice to put the shoe on the other foot ...

 

[numbercruncher]

Nearly 2 million Iraqis -- about 8 percent of the prewar population -- have embarked on a desperate migration, mostly to Jordan, Syria and Lebanon, according to the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/03/AR2007020301604.html

A team of American and Iraqi epidemiologists estimates that 655,000 more people have died in Iraq since coalition forces arrived in March 2003 than would have died if the invasion had not occurred.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/10/AR2006101001442.html


Can John Howard and the Liberal party seriously justify this level of Human suffering ?

 

[disarray]

the majority of civilian deaths are caused by other arabs, and is not the fault of coalition forces.

once again because people keep bringing up the bodycount of iraqi civilians - most civilian deaths are being caused by arabs fighting amongst themselves, and not by the coalition forces.

on the plus side, the war in iraq appears to be turning in the coalitions favour. previous hotspots like ramadhi and fallujah have quietened down considerably as local insurgency forces get sick of al-quada and other foreign jihadis coming in, telling everyone how to live their lives (hint: it involves psycho sharia law) and blowing people up in markets, playgrounds and government offices.

added to this the fact that jihadis have been pouring into iraq for years only to get slaughtered by the coalition, while a resurgent taliban is competing for the same pool of jihadis means iraq means less fighters running around causing headaches for coalition forces.

 

[robert toms]

Saddam was responsible for security when he was in power...the Coalition so wanted to take over from him that they killed thousands.Now they are responsible for security... whether it be Sunni against Shia against Kurd or whatever,or Tigris tarts versus Euphrates eunuchs ...what you will.
Or maybe it is only the oil that matters?
Invading forces take on the role of security etc etc etc.!