Internships at trading firms?

[mazzatelli]

Generally Asians prefer more secure roles e.g. banking, accounting, law or those with some "prestige" e.g. medicine

The parents [due to their hardships] generally [and understandably] guide their kids on the safe path. The encouragement to study is to avoid hard labour jobs like what the parents went through.

 

[$20shoes]

Generally Asians prefer more secure roles e.g. banking, accounting, law or those with some "prestige" e.g. medicine

The parents [due to their hardships] generally [and understandably] guide their kids on the safe path. The encouragement to study is to avoid hard labour jobs like what the parents went through.

Although we're generalising, you tend to see this within the
generation of immigrants at the time, and whatever they perceive as successful, that's what they will hone into their offspring.
To give up everything for a new start you can imagine the ideas that formulate - "I'm never going to let my kids go through the hardship Ive had to endure. I'm not giving up all this just for my kids to be unappreciative".

I know with European immigration, their idea of success was simple things - office job, business cards, or your own small business if you were mechanically minded. Things they couldnt do as they left primary school to work or were displaced by war and poverty. Their aspirations were practical; dont let your family starve, bring home a decent wage. University was perhaps unnecessary - good if you can get it - but perhaps overreaching.

In the last two decades, with such a strong emphasis on education, and with the latest large wave of immigration from APAC, the parent's aspirations for their children tend to reflect what we now perceive as successful: university, good scores, respected positions etc etc

my 2 cents

 

[Trembling Hand]

but from my schooling days, asians seemed more analytical and mathematically minded.

Of course I find this statement completely abhorrent and terrible unfair and biased.

How dare you assume that being analytical and mathematically minded makes a good trader.

 

[Mr J]

ahh... i hate all the frickin stereotypes about Asian parents. My parents did not drive me to study at all, I was self motivated to achieve high marks all through my life. I'm naturally competitive in anything I do... including my studies...

It may be a stereotype, but that doesn't mean it isn't true. My school was about half asian, and most had parents driving them. Certainly more so than those with a European background.

The parents [due to their hardships] generally [and understandably] guide their kids on the safe path.

Don't put it down to hardship, as many of the Asian parents did will in their native country. Most of the Asians at my school came from a wealthy Hong Kong background.

 

[Largesse]

It may be a stereotype, but that doesn't mean it isn't true. My school was about half asian, and most had parents driving them. Certainly more so than those with a European background.



Don't put it down to hardship, as many of the Asian parents did will in their native country. Most of the Asians at my school came from a wealthy Hong Kong background.

i would hazard a guess that a decent proportion of the anglo-saxon students that went to your school also come from well to do backgrounds...

but i'm the same boat as you, most of the international students i went to hight school with came from very wealthy backgrounds, rich indonesians, singaporeans and chinese mostly.
one of them's old man owned half the rainforests in java, i remember one day watching him swap $100 worth of $1 coins at the tuckshop and throw them on the ground at lunch time so he could laugh at all the kids running round to pick them up.

was funny in a sick kinda way

 

[white_goodman]

i remember one day watching him swap $100 worth of $1 coins at the tuckshop and throw them on the ground at lunch time so he could laugh at all the kids running round to pick them up.

was funny in a sick kinda way

what a prick lol,

kinda reminds me when mates asked me for coins and id only give them to them by throwing it on the ground or rolling down the hill... though that was like 20cents ha

 

[mazzatelli]

Don't put it down to hardship, as many of the Asian parents did will in their native country. Most of the Asians at my school came from a wealthy Hong Kong background.

Really? They just sat in Hong Kong and money just grew off trees on low hanging branches? Didn't work hard at all to obtain that wealth in a dog eat dog environment?

The parents I can safely assume worked hard. The generation that followed [my generation(I'm a halfie)] is a load of BS.

Plus, operating a business in Asia isn't as clear cut as in a Western country

 

[Largesse]

Really? They just sat in Hong Kong and money just grew off trees on low hanging branches? Didn't work hard at all to obtain that wealth in a dog eat dog environment?

The parents I can safely assume worked hard. The generation that followed [my generation(I'm a halfie)] is a load of BS.

Plus, operating a business in Asia isn't as clear cut as in a Western country

Track ID on your profile pic please Mazzatelli

would hit

 

[white_goodman]

would hit

sloppy 1,422nds

 

[prawn_86]

sloppy 1,422nds

ROFL!

 

[Mr J]

i would hazard a guess that a decent proportion of the anglo-saxon students that went to your school also come from well to do backgrounds...

Yes, I'm just pointing out that many did not come from 'hardship'! There was a noticeable difference between the attitudes of Euro and Asian parents, in that school, others, and general observation.

Really? They just sat in Hong Kong and money just grew off trees on low hanging branches? Didn't work hard at all to obtain that wealth in a dog eat dog environment

I never said they didn't work hard, but many did not suffer the 'hardships' to which you were referring.

Plus, operating a business in Asia isn't as clear cut as in a Western country

It may be to an Asian? Or more accurately, that business in Asia for an Asian is as clear as business in the West for a westerner .

 

[mazzatelli]

I never said they didn't work hard, but many did not suffer the 'hardships' to which you were referring.

O rly? My father left home at 14 to the countryside to perform manual labour to feed himself. Escaped the communist regime and war to try and gain status as a refugee in Australia, not to mention that on the way if you were picked up by authorities you would be sent back. I also forgot to mention that there wasn't readily available money for food and shelter, so it meant sleeping on the street.

Upon arrival in Australia with empty hands, worked for peanuts and whatever money was made was sent back home to try help his family. He is more than comfortable now, but they're not really hardships as you say.

Not to mention there are a whole group of refugees from his day here, which doesn't make him a one off case.

It may be to an Asian? Or more accurately, that business in Asia for an Asian is as clear as business in the West for a westerner .

Really? Kickbacks to "authorities" the norm when you try to open say a coffee shop here in Australia?
You really think you can turn up to an interview with your degree in Asia and think you have a fair crack at getting the job without some special incentives for the interviewer?
LOL

Anyways, last post from me on this off topic.

 

[Largesse]

O rly? My father left home at 14 to the countryside to perform manual labour to feed himself. Escaped the communist regime and war to try and gain status as a refugee in Australia, not to mention that on the way if you were picked up by authorities you would be sent back. I also forgot to mention that there wasn't readily available money for food and shelter, so it meant sleeping on the street.

Upon arrival in Australia with empty hands, worked for peanuts and whatever money was made was sent back home to try help his family. He is more than comfortable now, but they're not really hardships as you say.

Not to mention there are a whole group of refugees from his day here, which doesn't make him a one off case.



Really? Kickbacks to "authorities" the norm when you try to open say a coffee shop here in Australia?
You really think you can turn up to an interview with your degree in Asia and think you have a fair crack at getting the job without some special incentives for the interviewer?
LOL

Anyways, last post from me on this off topic.

POST MOAR BABES

 

[awg]

Are there any trading firms in Australia or Asia Pacific that have trading internships??

Hi Jono

It has been my experience that the most effective method to gain access/employment is to know someone already inside.

This is common knowledge of course

that being the case, if you dont know anyone on the inside, a method that can be helpful, is to find out the names of someone already on the inside and try to meet them and talk to them.

It helps if you offer to buy then coffee/beer/lunch/cocaine

Helps if you are a likeable, handsome person, and can talk the talk

Determination and ingenuity are assets that will take you far, plus careful planning

wear a nice suit (but not too nice!)

I once got a job, by targeting and researching the company I wanted to work for, knew more about them than they did

happy hunting

 

[jono1887]

that being the case, if you dont know anyone on the inside, a method that can be helpful, is to find out the names of someone already on the inside and try to meet them and talk to them.

It helps if you offer to buy then coffee/beer/lunch/cocaine

Helps if you are a likeable, handsome person, and can talk the talk

thanks for the reply, but as alluded to by other posters... my analytical skills came at a cost to other skills so i dont really 'talk the talk' and I dont know anyone on the inside...