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I can't see Gillard pushing for anything to extreme.. she seems level headed enough not to get too carried away... at least for the time being. Or at most an Opt-in variant. Or is the GFW off the agenda .. for good?
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Yes, well I guess that about as wrong as can be!

From previous ..The Australian link

US Ambassador to Australia Jeff Bleich has urged the government to ditch the plan, saying child pornographers can be captured and prosecuted without using mandatory internet filters.
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Like the power to already request ISP's to log 'all' traffic of any suspect , or the power of AFP or equivalent to bug a home or computer (ie with a keylogger) of any suspect..possibly without a court order ..(might just be NSW needs checking). Or setting up 'Honeypots' etc.

Why such a big deal about a filter ... here's a site with filters for some Firewalls as well as hosts file.

http://www.calendarofupdates.com/updates/index.php?app=downloads&showcat=1

We don't need the govt to do everything for us.

And what about this? How's this going to be regulated??

HP has thrown the door wide open to let you print files from any email-capable device by sending the photos, documents or web pages directly to the printer's unique email address.
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HP's new printers with email addresses

A Christian lobby seems to be support the GFW, which seems strange as I doubt Christians have much freedom of speech in any country that already has a GFW...I wonder if they understand what they are likely setting themselves up for?

The problem will be how long will the queue be of all those who don't like what they see & read on the internet?? How long will it be before a political power gets there grubby mitts on it it to keep in power?? How will it evolve in 5..10..20 years time??

And finally an extract from Internode's engineer Mark Newton submission to the Federal Parliamen’s Joint Select Committee on Cyber Safety, the guy Conroy once claimed(erroneously) was supportive of the GFW trial.

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Internet censorship. Big red buttons. Websites that crash with the slightest provocation. eSecurity initiatives that attempt to make everyone except end users responsible for end-user behavior. A House Cyber-Security Committee that wastes the valuable time of expert witnesses by quizzing them about fabricated Hollywood movie plots, and recommends mandatory industry codes to force ISPs to respond to security threats which were obsolete years ago.

A Government anti-spam body which has made precisely zero difference to the amount of spam received by Australians. Content regulation which forces the ACMA to make reprehensibly foolish decisions, turning what should be a prestigious, respected regulator into a finger-wagging, tut-tutting grandmother.

Shoehorning ISPs and websites into the same Act of Parliament which regulates broadcasters, even though ISPs are more like the postal service, and websites are more like homes and businesses. A Minister who is pilloried for “spams and scams coming through the portal,” and who insists that the Government isn’t interested in restricting freedom of speech on the very same day that ACMA blacklists an anti-abortion advocacy site. Kevin Rudd’s $120,000 website.

The Government’s reprehensibly ignorant attacks on Google. Statements by MPs such as those made by the Hon. Maxine McKew, MP during her recent appearance on the ABC’s Q&A program, where she made the outrageous suggestion that the internet should be regulated like a newspaper rather than like a water-cooler discussion.

An approach to online copyright which legally encumbers the regular, day to day activities of millions of end-users, thereby encouraging a society-wide disrespect for copyright law. Public consultations yielding over 50,000 responses in favor of the establishment of an R18+ rating for computer games, put on the back-burner because, apparently, 50,000 responses is inadequate and more consultation is required.

Former Prime Minister Kevin Rudd’s ignorant use of the made-up term “band speed” to describe what the NBN will deliver to 90 per cent of Australians. A merry parade of politicians who would be lynched if they didn’t know the difference between interest rates and inflation rates, who see no shame in confusing “megabits per second” with “megabytes.”

This Government has literally no idea what it’s doing with the online environment, and has shown an outright refusal to be educated about it. Is it any wonder that so many people distrust them?
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I hope Julia Gillard dosen't consider complaints about the GFW.... just a bit of a "giggle"??
 
We could hope that the shelving will eventually turn into it being dropped.

But meantime apparently Optus and Telstra have volunteered to block all child pornography sites.
 
More likely lying low until after the election, IMO.

I'm all for child pr0n being blocked as long as it stops there without other things quietly being blocked without our knowledge.

In any case, paedophiles are most likely find a way around it somehow. :disgust:
 
Wake up people. Shelving it "for now" is a way to say we have to get the clueless masses to vote for us so anything controvesial we will just put away in the cupboard then when we come back we will say "well you knew it was part of our policy so you have given us our mandate to take away your freedoms".

At first I thought Gillard might be different - but she is as self serving as the rest of them - all parties.

As to the Liberals - hey Tony you want my vote? Then make a stand, draw a line in the sand and actually stand for something concrete. Small business support - fix the Personal Services Income legislation so it doesn't do over legitimate professional contractors. Internet filtering - make it optional. Over government - cut back welfare, cut back government, cut back the overgrown public service. Medical services - cut the states right out, stop duplicating the bureaucracy, take over the whole mess and take it fully private. There are a million items on the agenda that need fixing. And can be fixed by reducing the nanny state.

Time for my medication I think...
 
I might be being paranoid, but the National Broadband Network is going ahead, Telstra are signing over all their incoming cables and so on... so pretty soon, the gov will own the only access our whole country has to the internet anyway.

Looks, at least at the shallow end, like the internet filter BS from Comrade Conjob is just a sort of red herring... which would explain why such a complete moron appears to be being taken seriously by the other pollies... there may have never been any intention of pushing it all the way through, just of using it to distract people from the NBN's real raison d'etre... i.e., watching everything we all do, and monitoring what we do, and limiting our access to information.

Because once the gov owns the only internet gateway for the country, they can filter whatever they want, and won't even need to legislate or disclose blacklisted sites or anything.

This is some nazi style bull crud, right here. :eek:
 
BTW Lakemac, i agree; less government, less nanny-state = less waste, and cheaper gov, and better economy.

Why not close down some of the dead-weight gov depts, reduce many others, streamline a few things 21st C style, and lower business taxes, to increase our actual production, so all the gov employees that just got fired, can start working in the private sector instead, and make things of actual use, or provide other important services, cost-effectively and efficiently, like most business aims to be. (Most business that is, except a labour government, which aims to spend every cent they ever get, and then some.)

Less government, less big brother tactics. This country would be an even better place if we could achieve this.
 
Well we now have a hint on how Internet filtering is going to effect all of us.

Alex Jones Tv Special Sunday Edition: Obama Deception Censored by NSA/CIA Controlled Google!!
 
what's wrong with a bit of internet filter? China has the world largest internet filter and they're citizen ain't complaining too much.
 
warakawa said:
what's wrong with a bit of internet filter? China has the world largest internet filter and they're citizen ain't complaining too much.
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I wouldn't complain either... if I wanted to live.
 
warakawa said:
what's wrong with a bit of internet filter? China has the world largest internet filter and they're citizen ain't complaining too much.
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The problem is that the Internet filter is going to be global, it will restrict everyones freedom of speech and business practices.

A total black out on War, finance, geopolitical, political, friends, family, toys, sports, weather, cosmos and business that goes on around the world is not a good thing.

Unless you enjoy being brainwashed by the media with lies and more lies?
 
At what point does 'it' become just the 'wold order' as opposed to the 'new world order'? As far as i can remember its been the NWO and not too much has changed....

Admittedly i agree the internet will be changed and resricted, but how much influence a minescule minority of the population has is debatable
 
prawn_86 said:
At what point does 'it' become just the 'wold order' as opposed to the 'new world order'? As far as i can remember its been the NWO and not too much has changed....

Admittedly i agree the internet will be changed and resricted, but how much influence a minescule minority of the population has is debatable
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The political elite run the system which is a minuscule minority.

Whether North Korea or Oz its the same no matter the system.

Freedom of expression and access to information dramatically changes the outcome on what choices are available for the individual some thing we take for granted.
 
IFocus said:
The political elite run the system which is a minuscule minority.

Whether North Korea or Oz its the same no matter the system.

Freedom of expression and access to information dramatically changes the outcome on what choices are available for the individual some thing we take for granted.
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I dont disagree that the so called 'elite' and 'men behind the curtain' run the system, i jus think that the average person really doesnt care or know what is happening despite their internet access. So yes, it may effet the, say 1-% of people who know enouhg, but aren't big enohgt to do anything (like most ASF memmbers) but will not effect the majority of the population as a whole
 
prawn_86 said:
I dont disagree that the so called 'elite' and 'men behind the curtain' run the system, i jus think that the average person really doesnt care or know what is happening despite their internet access. So yes, it may effet the, say 1-% of people who know enouhg, but aren't big enohgt to do anything (like most ASF memmbers) but will not effect the majority of the population as a whole
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You might be onto some there Prawn think of the time saved from endless hours of pointless argument about politics if it was blocked. :D
 
prawn_86 said:
I dont disagree that the so called 'elite' and 'men behind the curtain' run the system, i jus think that the average person really doesnt care or know what is happening despite their internet access.
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That is what happens when you have the Media not doing their job correctly.

The media always gives people the impression of "Nothing to see here. Move along" approach. With a smile. Then they brain wash the masses with 15 minutes of sports promotion. Every day.

No real meat on the bones is ever detailed. Just rants and big smiles.

People have noticed fear and terror reports? yes, we all love fear and terror. In response we call for protection.

Protection = Control, Enslavement and no rights. = No freedom.

prawn_86 said:
So yes, it may effet the, say 1-% of people who know enouhg, but aren't big enohgt to do anything (like most ASF memmbers) but will not effect the majority of the population as a whole
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Awareness is increasing. And by the end of this year? More people will be asking questions due to currency changes and other economic/political events.

If the people do not care or wake up? Then you will certainly be witnessing a nightmare you wished you never see in your life time.

The resulting damage will enslave most. Certain death (starvation and/or World War 3) will come for the unprepared and the weak.

Slave camps are possible too (Working for the government/ Dole programs). Oh, that has already started?

This Reminds me of something from the past, before I was born.

Oh yea, The Nazi system.
 
if any of this thought police internet policy goes through i'll be more than happy to pay $10 / month and run all of my net traffic through an american proxy. it'll be tax deductible.

when americans say "free speech"* they mean "free speech"*

*subject to political expediency
 
disarray said:
if any of this thought police internet policy goes through i'll be more than happy to pay $10 / month and run all of my net traffic through an american proxy. it'll be tax deductible.

when americans say "free speech"* they mean "free speech"*

*subject to political expediency
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lol, The Americans also have have the same policies but it will be worse.

This is going global if the people let it. All governments are trying to pass (or already have passed) the same or similar (worse) Bills.
 

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