So is this margin lending still illegal? Is that what the issue is with IB in Australia?
I really don't understand why there is no margin lending.
Are you able to explain it?
I wonder if it's worth setting up and account as a company if it doubles exposure.
I guess there are a number of other considerations too.
I would love some thoughts on this. Is there a specific thread for it?
4. Does this margin restriction apply to all Australian residents?
No. This restriction applies solely to accounts associated with a natural personal and not entities such as corporations. In the case of trust accounts, the restriction applies if any of the trustees are natural persons.
Thanks mate.
If I was hypothetically working too it would then be worth it?
Say 70K in my job + 50k as a company in trading?
But if I left work and only made 50K then not worth it?
Thanks mate.
If I was hypothetically working too it would then be worth it?
Say 70K in my job + 50k as a company in trading?
But if I left work and only made 50K then not worth it?
I just saw that. A nice surprise.
Does anyone know what exactly this is all about? Why the refund?
With this development I can't see IB offering the margin product anytime soon.
I wonder if it's worth setting up and account as a company if it doubles exposure.
I guess there are a number of other considerations too.
I would love some thoughts on this. Is there a specific thread for it?
what is getting refunded? is it just interest charges or brokerage too ? I've since closed my account at IB and haven't heard anything
Interactive Brokers LLC REFUND TO CLIENTS
February 9, 2015
Dear Sir/Madam:
RE: Interactive Brokers LLC REFUND TO CLIENTS
On 8 December 2014, Interactive Brokers LLC offered an enforceable undertaking (EU) to the Australian Securities and Investments Commission (ASIC) under which it agreed to provide refunds of net fees to all retail clients who utilised margin lending facilities during the period from 1 July 2010 to 19 August 2013. You are receiving this letter because you have been identified as a retail client to whom Interactive Brokers will provide a refund.
Interactive Brokers offered the EU in response to ASIC's concerns about its margin lending activities. A copy of the EU and ASIC's media release can be found at www.asic.gov.au.
Your Refund
The refund of net fees includes commissions and interest but not payments made by IB to third parties such as regulators, clearing houses and intermediaries. The refunds also do not include IB's cost of funds.
Your refund has been calculated as follows (all figures in Australian Dollars):
Client Name: xxx
Client Account Number: xxxx
Transaction Period: 01-JUL-10 to 10-AUG-10
Commission/Interest
Amount (AUD)
Commissions from margin transactions 881.53
Less fees paid to regulators, operators, intermediaries 87.41
Interest paid
2068.42
Less cost of funds 1400.32
TOTAL REFUND: 1462.21
Receiving Your Refund
As an existing client of Interactive Brokers, your refund will be paid into your Interactive Brokers account. You do not need to do anything further and may verify that payment has been made through review of your Daily Activity Statement.
Disputing Your Refund
If you have any questions about this letter or wish to contact Interactive Brokers directly, please telephone Interactive Brokers Client Services at +61 (2) 8093 7300 or send an email to auclients@interactivebrokers.com..
If you wish to dispute your refund, you may also contact the Financial Ombudsman Service (FOS), an external complaints resolution body. You can contact FOS by telephone 1300 780 808, through their website www.fos.org.au or in writing at:
Financial Ombudsman Service Limited
GPO Box 3
Melbourne Victoria 3001
You may also wish to quote our membership number to FOS, which is 11683.
Contacting Interactive Brokers
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Message Reference Number: 18504681-150, Sent Date: 2015.02.09 13:36:42 -0500
I have been using IB for years both personal and in a company - get a good accountant, it works wellThanks for that Dock, will try contacting them about it
The above post is a little old now but I don't see that this issue of contravening section 13.14 of the SIS act (charge on assets) has been answered here. Clause 15 of IB's customer agreement places a charge over the SMSF assets that are held by IB, so trading in the name of an SMSF with IB definitely contravenes the SIS act.
For all those that have SMSFs with IB, have you done anything to address this. Maybe that Clause 15 is just for Reg T margin type accounts, which is what I have with my SMSF, but I have a feeling it is in any agreement that IB puts out.
There was a user on here, jorgon, who has done some work on this, it's mentioned in a few threads including this one: https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25202
Has anyone contacted IB and asked them to remove clause 15 of the agreement and replace with something along the lines of what jorgon is suggesting. I think I'm gonna go down that path. If you're generating a bit of cash in your SMSF with IB, don't want to get hit with 45% tax rate, or worse.
I think Esuperfund used to have IB as one of their comulsory brokers, I don't think they are with IB anymore. Maybe they stopped because of this charge on assets issue.
Hey guys, has IB reduced their brokerage for option trading?? I thought i was $3.00 per contract but the picture below clearly shows $.030 per contract (minimum of $2.00). I normally trade with only 10 to 30 contracts at a time so am i really only looking at $3.00 to enter or exit a position??
Would love the clarification as this pricing is absolutely awesome if correct, thanks!View attachment 61693
The contract size is now 100 instead of 1000. http://www.asx.com.au/documents/professionals/asx_eto_contract_size_reduction.pdf
Ice
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