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That's about right only if there's zero inflation over the next 12 years. Possible but I doubt it...Yes we know some one who will have to wait 12 years to get back what they have outlaid.
To me, the panels themselves are a form of insurance. A hedge against inflation and a guaranteed source of something useful (electricity).As a financial investment, I wouldn't do it as you describe. Even ignoring the marginal increase in your insurance expenses, the back of the envelope calc looks like it has a negative NPV. What may get it over the line is if you're able to sell unused power back into the grid - from memory you could in WA, but I've got no personal experience with that.
How have you managed to get finance for 0% and in particular, was the finance arranged as part of the sale of the panel ?That leaves me to pay $3975 (quote I've obtained). I've arranged finance for this (not committed as yet) as follows:
50% financed at 0% (fixed) with no fees, repayable over 2 years.
Remaining 50% financed at 0% for just under two months, then transferred to a rate of just under 5% (variable) which I plan paying off in about 3 years time (hopefully).
In short, yes it's the same as an interest free deal in a retail store.How have you managed to get finance for 0% and in particular, was the finance arranged as part of the sale of the panel ?
The curiosity here is whether this is the same kind of finance arrangement as interest free deals offered in retail stores.
With this kind of finance the third party finance company (typically GE Finance) retains a portion of the sale price of the product. This is how the finance company makes a return on the loan during the interest free period. You are effectively paying for the finance through an inflated purchase price.In short, yes it's the same as an interest free deal in a retail store.
Stripping away the government incentives I note that the gross yield on the underlying investment is 2.2% which is extremely poor.Total cost is about $12,800......
Electricity production will be about 1500 kWh per annum which will save about $275 on power bills assuming no change in rates......
Regarding the finance, the price quoted is the cheapest I've found in terms of $ price and that includes the "free" finance. Yes I'm aware that I'm paying somehow for that finance, but it's still the best deal I've found thus far.Stripping away the government incentives I note that the gross yield on the underlying investment is 2.2% which is extremely poor.
Is this the best that can be obtained from currently available renewable energy options at present energy prices ?
We're not far apart... I'm in Geilston Bay (for everyone else that's only a few km away and also on the Eastern Shore).Hey Smurf, we've just put in a 1kW solar in Hobart for the same price and thoroughly enjoying checking the stats every day. We're on the sunny Eastern shore down in Tranmere so get plenty of sun most days and have been averaging 4kWh per day since mid March. Hoping to maintain that or a bit more over the year cycle.
Haven't checked insurance - been meaning to though!
I have no doubt that electricity prices will hike by 8-10% per year over the foreseeable future (in Tas at least), Transend have truckloads of upgrades that need doing, don't know about Hydro but I'm sure they're probably the same.
WHile Aurora currently only pay us back at their chargeout rate (19.5c/kWh) I reckon we might see some premium paid ala SA and Vic who pay 50-100% premiums for solar fed back into the grid.
Hopefully with no more of that interest free nonsense.I've now found a better deal on the panels and inverter.
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