numbercruncher
Beware of Dropbears
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You can't find anything legitimate to level at Ms Reinhardt so wish her ill health.
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- my bad
Class warfare? The ****? Okey so how about this.
One person, very smart, builds up their business from scratch, does amazing things, their own hard work and skill builds up a multi-billion business. I think nobody here would have any problem with that.
Then you have these scum like "Gina" who inherit their wealth, get lucky off a commodity bubble, do absolutely **** all for the country, and then offshore jobs.
And apparently unless you love them it's class warfare? Please
I believe in honest pay for honest work. If you do nothing your entire life but get fat and walk around in an ugly dress, off-shoring jobs and taking over media for your own personal propaganda while screwing over the country which gave you your wealth - well, I take issue with that.
Look....she's doing everything within the law, if you had the chance to earn billions what would you do.
So what if she inherited, good luck to her.
So if you have billions, people are losing their jobs in your country with the precise skills you are after, and yet you hire people from overseas to do the jobs they can easily do - people have every right to call you out on it.
Don't expect business to do anything but follow the money thats what theyre there for , if it doesnt suit, get Govt to çhange the law.
Like the MRRT ? That's the government following the money as well. There is no point trying to get taxes from people who haven't got the money.
Don't expect business to do anything but follow the money thats what theyre there for , if it doesnt suit, get Govt to çhange the law.
Bad because you fall into wealth? So anybody who has built up their wealth and has a child - they're automatically labelled 'bad'? Sounds like a reasonable thought process...Everyone should earn and deserve everything they have. If they didn't, then they are bad people.
We can discuss anything...That's a pretty arbitrary accusation. If you fancy me a troll, I'd rather not discuss things with you.
I agree that some governments aren't as strong as the other (for the record I would really like to see the back of this one) - but on the whole Australia is pretty free and liberal. I too am more capitalist leaning than probably both governments but I can't think of another place I'd rather try and build myself than Australia.I like Australia as a country, I bag the crappy governments which continue to ruin it. Do you think anyone ever wants to leave their country of residence? I would much rather Australia become a freedom, liberty, democracy and capitalism loving nation. A libertarian paradise. But that ain't happening anytime soon - is it?
She is a businesswoman - trying to ensure that holders of her company are seeing growth and profit in their investments - as well as her own. To simply mothball (a huge project that will employ thousands) this because she couldn't adequately find people in Australia seems like the stroke of someone going from a billionaire to a millionaire no? If she didn't think of an EMA and couldn't get the project off the ground you'd be shouting from the treetops that she's a failed businesswoman. Besides - if I was in her shoes I'd go the EMA option also - keep the greedy unions off my site and ensure a project gets close to being built on time and in budget.Nobody is forcing her to hire people from overseas. If I was an Australian businessman, not to mention one of the richest people in the country, there's no way in hell I would ever offshore with 9% unemployment (Roy Morgan). It is simply immoral.
Have you ever looked up the meaning of corruption? Just because they signed the EMA doesn't mean they're corrupt? Remember - a lot is in this for them also - they get the taxes from this project and infrastructure is built - unemployment is kept down etc etc.EMA is not the government paying business money or giving them any incentive to hire overseas workers - it is merely allowing them to do so. Still, I do not disagree that it is clear our government is utterly corrupt because there is no justification for said agreement.
I find it highly ludicrous how they claim that there aren't enough construction workers at a time when construction firms are going bankrupt due to lack of work.
Thats just bludging extra out of companies to cover your own waste, they dont follow the money as in earn it they just take.
It's not about the law; the government shouldn't have to legislate anything - businesses should do the right thing. If they don't, people should take their business elsewhere.
Likewise I can't believe people complain when others call out these mining tossers for offshoring.
If they weren't taxing Gina more they would have to tax you and me more.
The Rinehart fan club that seems to have a few members here keeps repeating that she "cant" find locals to fill positions - do you have proof of this ?
I just linked an article about a jobs fair in Perth this weekend in which 14k people attended and team Rinehart didnt even have a careers tent at the event .... For someone who needs to import 1700 457s there is a surprising lack of adverts on her website or seek.com.au
Its a rort ...
Bad because you fall into wealth? So anybody who has built up their wealth and has a child - they're automatically labelled 'bad'? Sounds like a reasonable thought process...
I agree that some governments aren't as strong as the other (for the record I would really like to see the back of this one) - but on the whole Australia is pretty free and liberal. I too am more capitalist leaning than probably both governments but I can't think of another place I'd rather try and build myself than Australia.
She is a businesswoman - trying to ensure that holders of her company are seeing growth and profit in their investments - as well as her own. To simply mothball (a huge project that will employ thousands) this because she couldn't adequately find people in Australia seems like the stroke of someone going from a billionaire to a millionaire no? If she didn't think of an EMA and couldn't get the project off the ground you'd be shouting from the treetops that she's a failed businesswoman. Besides - if I was in her shoes I'd go the EMA option also - keep the greedy unions off my site and ensure a project gets close to being built on time and in budget.
Have you ever looked up the meaning of corruption? Just because they signed the EMA doesn't mean they're corrupt? Remember - a lot is in this for them also - they get the taxes from this project and infrastructure is built - unemployment is kept down etc etc.
How many people want to move to WA and work at Roy Hill? Sure there are jobs - but who's going to stick around and finish the job? As mentioned previously - the drop off %s may be too great to ensure the budgeting of this project.
Business should do the right thing ?
Who do you invest in ? the soft weak organisations or the ones that make the money ?
Not saying for a second I support the EMA.
But how about big businesses setting up call centres in India? Or major retailers importing from China rather than manufacturing locally? Big business are motivated by profit. Labour is getting very very expensive here.
Seems like the same old tall poppy syndrome alive in well from The Left.
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