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Hello all,

I've been reading this forum on and off for a bit, and think there are lots of sensible, mature and knowledgeable people here, and given that there is also this 'general chat' forum, I just wanted to share my story, maybe even confess, amongst you learned people. Not really seeking financial advice, but would like people's take on my situation and how easy/hard it would be for me to recover.

A little bit about myself - I'm 31, single, live at home with my folks. I'm a white collar worker, and in my current job, I earn about $120k pa but it's a contract which ends in April 2014. I don't really have any plans after that if they decide not to renew my contract, but guess I still have some time to look for a job between now and then. This is the highest paid job I've ever had - before that I started on $34k, then $40k, then $70k.

I have my group of friends, and am quite physically active, playing team sports and going to the gym. But in terms of romance, I have always led a lonely life. A few years into my career, my friends took me to a brothel, and since then, I have been frequenting various brothels to 'satisfy' the lack of romance in my life.

Last year I met a girl in a shop and we kinda hit it off, despite some very obvious language differences. We started going out, and in about February this year she started talking about her visa expiring, so I was thinking of ways to help her. When I did come up with a solution, she broke up with me. She said she could not do her work and be with me, and explained she was working because she had a debt of $90k as her mother had cancer and needed surgery in South Korea. She asked me if I could pay it off for her. I obviously could not, as I didn't have that kind of money. So we broke up.

In about August this year, I got really lonely and decided to text her. I told her I could help (because that was the only way she was going to reply), even though I didn't really mean it. So we met up, she told me her debt was now $50k and I said I could help her, and we got back together.

I realised what I had done and how much $50k really was. I decided to get a personal loan from the bank for $40k. I was really surprised by how easy it all was. I told them I needed the money for a holiday, and they gave it to me. That was a bit concerning for me.

Anyway, I still wasn't so sure about giving her this money. I decided to give her $5k per week, and when I told her this, she got really upset, saying I had lied, and that wasn't part of the deal. But she ended up coming around and agreeing to it. Thing was, by now, she had a broken foot and could not work, so I was in effect supporting her.

And so the payments started. I gave her $5k per week. When I got to $15k, I knew I needed to stop. This was getting serious. So I lied and told her I lost my job, to test her to see if she'd stay with me if I had no money. But she begged and pleaded for another $10k, so over two more weeks I gave her that money. Now in total I had given her $25k.

Although she stayed with me despite my 'job loss', she still asked me for weekly expenses like her rent. In terms of expenses, I think I gave her around a total of $3k.

I also suffered some emotional abuse during this relationship. An example was that one night when I was trying to sleep, she would not let me sleep. She kept shining her phone into my eyes and slapping me on the face softly, asking me for the rest of the money. I said no, we had a fight and I left her place that night.

One time she asked me for $1500 for expenses, but I had to pay my car rego, CTP and two new tyres to get my pink slip that time, so I said no. She went nuts and broke up with me, calling me selfish.

So that's pretty much it in a nutshell. My current situation is, I have about $26k in assets in terms of shares and cash. But a lot of that cash was stocked away for myself in case I could not find a new job by April next year. I have this debt of about $29k on 15% interest.

On a scale of 1-10, how much do you think I have screwed up?
 
Dude that's seriously messed up.

We've all made a couple of mistakes with girls over the years but I would never give someone $5,000 a week to essentially stay with me!

The good thing is that there is always a chance at redemption but you'd want to sort yourself out so that you're not vulnerable to this again!!
 
Lol. 10/10 Plenty of nice Aussie girls.
Change your locks, move house, change your phone otherwise she will bring her gang around next or you will marry her to keep her in the country. Run!!!
I hope she doesn't know about the rest of the money.

And she hasn't broken up with you... you will find her in your house tonight, ready to extort for more. (Change your locks!!) Be prepared to call the police if she won't leave. Starting thinking with your brain not your ...
 
11/10

If you can, break all contact immediately, move, change phones etc

If she returns then go to police first then after you have been, tell her you have been to the police. Hopefully this will cause her to find another sucker.

Then join some internet meeting places and be honest, do not BS and in time some lady will say he sounds OK and you start to meet people and you then feel better about yourself.
 
@GB
You are so cynical. (good onya)

@tech/a
lol
really! ... out loud!!

After a few warnings about being too cynical, I have tried to moderate my attitude a bit. But it seems very strange that someone new to a trading/investing forum would come in and for his first post, write an essay on how his girlfriend abused him and then ask to what degree he stuffed up.
 
After a few warnings about being too cynical, I have tried to moderate my attitude a bit. But it seems very strange that someone new to a trading/investing forum would come in and for his first post, write an essay on how his girlfriend abused him and then ask to what degree he stuffed up.

I actually have to agree
 
Having a lend or not, i don't think you've screwed up unless you don't drop her like a hot spud now and promise yourself to never see here again. If you think you have trouble now, wait until you get her knocked up.

Sounds like the Thai GF syndrome, in fact you could have had allot more fun spending the money traveling to Thailand every weekend.

Drop her now, get on with your life and chalk it up to experience.
 
Haha

My favorite was "Passions". Back in the day. Embarrassed to admit. Ethan Crane and Teresa.

The meaning of the name Ethan is 'Strong, firm, impetuous'

noun: crane; 
1.
a large, tall machine ...

Used for erections, right! :p:

Haha
 
This bloke is having a lend. Or fishing. Steer clear.
+1. Sounds like fantasy to me.

First point that jumped out at me was why someone earning decent money and still living at home with his parents would not have a considerable amount saved, and even if he was silly enough to give a woman this sort of money, shouldn't have been getting a loan to do it.

I don't believe a word of it.
 
Probably right.
This stuff does happen but why post it as a first post when no one knows you.
 
Hello all,

I've been reading this forum on and off for a bit, and think there are lots of sensible, mature and knowledgeable people here, and given that there is also this 'general chat' forum, I just wanted to share my story, maybe even confess, amongst you learned people. Not really seeking financial advice, but would like people's take on my situation and how easy/hard it would be for me to recover.

A little bit about myself - I'm 31, single, live at home with my folks. I'm a white collar worker, and in my current job, I earn about $120k pa but it's a contract which ends in April 2014. I don't really have any plans after that if they decide not to renew my contract, but guess I still have some time to look for a job between now and then. This is the highest paid job I've ever had - before that I started on $34k, then $40k, then $70k.

I have my group of friends, and am quite physically active, playing team sports and going to the gym. But in terms of romance, I have always led a lonely life. A few years into my career, my friends took me to a brothel, and since then, I have been frequenting various brothels to 'satisfy' the lack of romance in my life.

Last year I met a girl in a shop and we kinda hit it off, despite some very obvious language differences. We started going out, and in about February this year she started talking about her visa expiring, so I was thinking of ways to help her. When I did come up with a solution, she broke up with me. She said she could not do her work and be with me, and explained she was working because she had a debt of $90k as her mother had cancer and needed surgery in South Korea. She asked me if I could pay it off for her. I obviously could not, as I didn't have that kind of money. So we broke up.

In about August this year, I got really lonely and decided to text her. I told her I could help (because that was the only way she was going to reply), even though I didn't really mean it. So we met up, she told me her debt was now $50k and I said I could help her, and we got back together.

I realised what I had done and how much $50k really was. I decided to get a personal loan from the bank for $40k. I was really surprised by how easy it all was. I told them I needed the money for a holiday, and they gave it to me. That was a bit concerning for me.

Anyway, I still wasn't so sure about giving her this money. I decided to give her $5k per week, and when I told her this, she got really upset, saying I had lied, and that wasn't part of the deal. But she ended up coming around and agreeing to it. Thing was, by now, she had a broken foot and could not work, so I was in effect supporting her.

And so the payments started. I gave her $5k per week. When I got to $15k, I knew I needed to stop. This was getting serious. So I lied and told her I lost my job, to test her to see if she'd stay with me if I had no money. But she begged and pleaded for another $10k, so over two more weeks I gave her that money. Now in total I had given her $25k.

Although she stayed with me despite my 'job loss', she still asked me for weekly expenses like her rent. In terms of expenses, I think I gave her around a total of $3k.

I also suffered some emotional abuse during this relationship. An example was that one night when I was trying to sleep, she would not let me sleep. She kept shining her phone into my eyes and slapping me on the face softly, asking me for the rest of the money. I said no, we had a fight and I left her place that night.

One time she asked me for $1500 for expenses, but I had to pay my car rego, CTP and two new tyres to get my pink slip that time, so I said no. She went nuts and broke up with me, calling me selfish.

So that's pretty much it in a nutshell. My current situation is, I have about $26k in assets in terms of shares and cash. But a lot of that cash was stocked away for myself in case I could not find a new job by April next year. I have this debt of about $29k on 15% interest.

On a scale of 1-10, how much do you think I have screwed up?

Are you really saying that you didn't suspect foul play? Definitely a 10. They say love is blind but man!!!

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Probably right.
This stuff does happen but why post it as a first post when no one knows you.

Good point knobby!:banghead:
 
Thanks for everyone's replies. I can understand why you may think this is a hoax, as a good indication of any troll is that their first post can be quite attention seeking or controversial. But like I said, I have been reading this forum for a bit, I have an interest in finance and shares myself (just an amateur), and thought I'd make my confession to some like minded people. I cannot tell my friends because I'd be ashamed/embarassed.

We've all made a couple of mistakes with girls over the years but I would never give someone $5,000 a week to essentially stay with me!

I guess that was the net effect of it all wasn't it? But when I was 'in it', the reasoning was, she wanted to be with me but could not do her job at the same time, so if I wanted to be with her then I should help her out of her situation. Following on from that, if she was my girlfriend, I felt somewhat obligated to help with her mother's surgery.

If she returns then go to police first then after you have been, tell her you have been to the police. Hopefully this will cause her to find another sucker.

I would go to the police right now, but I don't think she has broken any laws.

Having a lend or not, i don't think you've screwed up unless you don't drop her like a hot spud now and promise yourself to never see here again. If you think you have trouble now, wait until you get her knocked up.

Sounds like the Thai GF syndrome, in fact you could have had allot more fun spending the money traveling to Thailand every weekend.

Drop her now, get on with your life and chalk it up to experience.

Yes, I have tried to look at things from the 'things could've been worse' perspective to try to comfort myself:

1. I could've gotten her pregnant.
2. I could've given her the rest of the money.
3. I could've married her.

I also try to tell myself that this was a 'cheap' divorce, as I'm sure men who go through divorces end up paying a lot more.

+1. Sounds like fantasy to me.

First point that jumped out at me was why someone earning decent money and still living at home with his parents would not have a considerable amount saved, and even if he was silly enough to give a woman this sort of money, shouldn't have been getting a loan to do it.

I don't believe a word of it.

I have only been on my current salary for a very short time. I have also had a gambling addiction in the past, I don't know how much I lost, but I reckon it'd be in the range of $20k.

Are you really saying that you didn't suspect foul play? Definitely a 10. They say love is blind but man!!!

As stupid as it sounds, I kinda still believe her mother has cervical cancer and needs surgery. There were a lot of times where she became emotionally distraught each time we brought her mother up. But even if that was a lie, I definitely believe she has a debt owing to some unsavoury people. So I also try to comfort myself by saying at least I helped one person on this planet and tried to change their life.

But sometimes that's hard to do, as I think back to the emotional abuse she inflicted on me. I remember one night I had $105 in my wallet and she asked for $80 to buy a carton of cigarettes. I was reluctant but eventually gave it to her. Later that night was the time she asked me for $1500 and called me selfish when I refused. I said if I was selfish I wouldn't have given her that $80 (and all the other money) and she said "oh you are so proud of having given me money aren't you?"

Another night, she also told me $5000 per week was nothing, which made me feel like I wasn't helping at all.
 
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