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Perth house prices soar to second most costly
25th July 2006, 14:00 WST

The $406,500 question: When will we overtake Sydney as the nation’s most expensive place to buy property?

DAWN GIBSON

Perth house prices have rocketed past those of Melbourne to become the second highest of the capital cities, figures calculated by WA national property monitor Residex have found.

They showed the median house price in Perth has hit a staggering $406,500, ahead of Melbourne on $379,000. Sydney is the only capital where housing is more expensive, with a median price just shy of $550,000.

The whopping surge in house prices has intensified pressure on the State Government to dip into its bulging coffers to provide tax relief before next year’s Budget, particularly for hard-hit first home buyers struggling to keep up with the spiralling market.

While first home buyers do not have to pay stamp duty on property worth $250,000 or less, real estate agents say they would be extremely unlikely to find a house at that price. The number of stand-alone houses on the market for less than $300,000 has dwindled to almost nothing.

The State Opposition, the Real Estate Institute of WA and the Chamber of Commerce and Industry yesterday renewed their calls for Treasurer Eric Ripper to reduce the property tax burden, which has underpinned an estimated record budget surplus of about $2.3 billion for 2005-06.

REIWA president Greg Rossen said he was not surprised that Perth house prices had surpassed those in Melbourne, saying the question now was whether Perth would overtake Sydney as the most expensive place to buy a house.

He said the Federal Government should more than double the first home owners’ grant to about $15,000 to reflect the increased cost of housing.

REIWA and the Opposition have called for the State Government to index the stamp duty-free threshold for first home owners to reflect the median house price.

Deputy Opposition Leader Troy Buswell said it was time the State Government treated housing affordability as a priority, both in the sense of easing the land shortage and reducing taxes and charges.

“(Treasurer) Eric Ripper has set up a tax review designed to do one thing ”” let him cut taxes at a time when it is politically advantageous to the Government,” Mr Buswell said. “It is not good enough to delay tax cuts for one to two more years so, in the lead up to the next election, Eric Ripper can make tax announcements simply when it is expeditious.”

Last week, Mr Ripper ruled out cuts in stamp duties or payroll tax before next year’s Budget.


and then this...



House prices to soar 20 per cent

Rhys Haynes

July 25, 2006 02:00pm
Article from: The Sunday Times



HOUSE prices in Perth are expected to rise a staggering 22 per cent this year as prices across the eastern states remain largely unchanged.
Mortgage insurer PMI Mortgage Insurance Ltd (PMI) today said residential markets across the eastern states have continued to slow.

``In contrast, the cities of Perth and Darwin have experienced solid price growth, as residential prices continue to be underpinned by stronger demand generated by a booming resources driven economy,'' the PMI Residential Property Overview found.

Median house prices in Perth are expected to soar by 22 per cent to $360,000 this year, with 3.1 per cent and 1.6 per cent increases expected over the following two years.

PMI forecast median house prices in Sydney would fall 2.1 per cent to $517,000 in 2006, 1.7 per cent in 2007 and 2.6 per cent in 2008.

Prices are expected to rise in Sydney by 1.8 per cent in 2009, according to the report.

``With interest rates on an upward trend, affordability is likely to remain a concern in the Sydney market and prices are expected to weaken further,'' the report said.

In Melbourne, the forecasts are a little more positive, with 2.8 per cent growth to the median house price of $370,000 expected in 2006.

Over the next three years growth is expected to be 1.9 per cent, 2.1 per cent and 3.9 per cent.

``Price growth in Melbourne is likely to be limited to rises coinciding with wages growth after an allowance for the rising interest rate environment,'' PMI said.

The Reserve Bank of Australia lifted interest rates by quarter of a percentage point to 5.75 per cent in May this year and most economists are expecting another rate rise as early as next month.

In Brisbane, prices are expected to rise 5.6 per cent this year to $330,000, but PMI said ``house prices in Brisbane appear to have reached their affordability limits''.
It is a different story in the western states, however.

In Darwin, a rise of 19.4 per cent to $334,000 is expected this year and over the next two years prices are expected to be around three per cent in 2007 and unchanged in 2008.

``Markets such as Perth and Darwin are currently experiencing strong demand and booming economic conditions as a result of substantial resource investment spending,'' the report said.

``Due to this strong economic position, it is predicted that significant price growth could continue, with both cities set to experience a growth in median house prices of around 20 per cent in 2006.''

PMI chief executive Ian Graham said that the number of home loans approved for new dwellings had risen over the twelve months to March 2006 by nine per cent.

``We are seeing that first home buyers are starting to come back into the market in greater numbers, albeit from a lower base,'' he said.

``Investor activity has remained flat, with little change in the value of loans to investor purchasers in the nine months to March 2006.''

Both posted on same day. Looks like everyone is guessing.
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the worst thing they can do is increase the first home owners grant to $15,000 or reducing stamp duty. This will only increase prices. They need to reduce negative gearing claims and make the CGT discount on property after 7 years instead of twelve months. Alas, this will only occur to them after they feel the wrath of the young and disillusioned at the polls in years to come.

Speaking of that, it's about time we had another revolution. Oh yeah... :D
 
Smurf1976 said:
Live wherever you like. But don't expect business etc to move out after you've bought just because you don't like the traffic, music, noise or whatever else is upsetting you. If you don't like those things then live somewhere in the 99.9% of Australia, or at least 95% of each capital city (the suburbs), that doesn't have them.

Agree with that...
lot of pubs in Adelaide effected by that...

big Jim.... tend to agree with you too...
but when your buying a home... its not based 'investment' criteria...


an investment property is a completely different story to a personal (family) home...
 
PMI forecast median house prices in Sydney would fall 2.1 per cent to $517,000 in 2006, 1.7 per cent in 2007 and 2.6 per cent in 2008.

Prices are expected to rise in Sydney by 1.8 per cent in 2009, according to the report.

So don't buy in Sydney until at least 2010... :eek:

I find that hard to believe. :rolleyes:

Perth wont overtake Sydney, ever. IMHO

I hope I am wrong, I wanna buy in Sydney but will wait patiently until I see an opportunity, which I suspect is 1 or 2 years away - I can not believe Sydney will have had falls from late 2003 through to 2009 - impossible I think.

Even a 1.8% rise is in reality a fall when indexed against inflation.
 
the worst thing they can do is increase the first home owners grant to $15,000 or reducing stamp duty. This will only increase prices. They need to reduce negative gearing claims and make the CGT discount on property after 7 years instead of twelve months. Alas, this will only occur to them after they feel the wrath of the young and disillusioned at the polls in years to come.

I disagree.

First home owners only make up a reasonably small proportion of the market.

They should have an advantage over investors of course. And $7K these days is nothing, make it $15K. And eliminate stamp duty for them - like NSW has done.

CGT has been reduced in affect because of the reduction in income tax recently, even those earning $150K + can only claim 45% back. Where as last year it was 48.5% over $90K from memory.
 
Realist said:
So don't buy in Sydney until at least 2010... :eek:

I find that hard to believe. :rolleyes:

Perth wont overtake Sydney, ever. IMHO

I hope I am wrong, I wanna buy in Sydney but will wait patiently until I see an opportunity, which I suspect is 1 or 2 years away - I can not believe Sydney will have had falls from late 2003 through to 2009 - impossible I think.

Even a 1.8% rise is in reality a fall when indexed against inflation.

Looking at the effects on business in Cronulla, it could flow onto property. :(
 
Stop_the_clock said:
It looks like the chorus of people singing "I am being priced out of the housing market" is getting louder and louder :eek:

That wouldn`t worry communists though. ;)No connection to yourself.
 
I am bakin' a cake this morning, not only to celebrate John Howards 67th Birthday, but to celebrate the release of higher than expected inflation numbers.

Thankyou RBA, you have my blessing to blow out the candles on these property investors by raising rates on Wed 2nd of August ;)

"and the chorus chants....Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday to you, Happy higher interest rates, Happy Birthday to you!"
 

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I better hurry up and bake another cake to celebrate an almost certain 3rd rate rise for the end of this year too

AN interest rate rise is all but assured after figures today show inflation surging 4 per cent in the past year. :cool:
 
The RBA has been flagging for at least the last 6 if not 12 months in their press releases and announcements that the next move in interest rates was most likely to be up, from record lows, and not down and so no-one has any justification imo to claim they didn't see the next rise coming whether they agree with the moves or not.

Money markets, like all markets, move in cycles and so we just have to learn to live with cyclical interest rates and take advantage of them :)
 
Smurf1976 said:
Anyone like to play "spot the bubble"?

I live in Perth and for a while I suspected what your saying may be true...but then the more research into resource stocks the more I suspect that this boom has still got some legs in it
There's some major construction projects planned over the next 3 years and the labour market is tight ...I know of several companies that are now projecting delays for this reason (+ matarials shortages)
And on anctedotal evidence I applied for a position as an advanced rigger some 12 months ago with monadelphous ...recently they told me they had given my information to an employment database and since then I've been getting text messages from various employers asking for workers every 2 weeks
The last position was a 3 and 1 week roster in Broome at $44 / hour ...when last I was working as a rigger the $ was between 28-36....
which is probably more evidence that inflation is here,well that and gas at 1.42 a litre
 
wayneL said:
I was thinking more of two words clowboy....

*$#@ing OATH! :D


And I was thinking three words...

Abso f***ing lutely




Okay I'll get me coat... :eek:
 
Well today I put another $500 into my superannuation account....some may say I am crazy, I don't care.

I am looking at a long at a long-term savings plan.

Wealth takes a life-time to build, some keep saying that I want it all today.

I am a product of a want it all now generation.

here is more proof that I want nothing today and everything tomorrow (when I am 65)
 
wayneL said:
Just stumbled onto this


The New Road to Serfdom: A Negative-Equity Mortgage
http://www.oftwominds.com/blogmay06/serfdom.html

Hope I'm not scaring you Wayne, but the "105% lend" and "family equity" type products are either available now or will be very shortly - basically, people starting off with a house purchase under these products are almost assured of negative equity before they begin.

As an side, rental vacancies for inner city Melbourne seem ready to impact on rentals (I would argue they have already), with yields set to rise - bad news for any renter that isn't in a long term lease. Vacancies in my area have dropped from about 7 pages of available properties at the lcoal real estate agents, to barely a page.
 
Stop_the_clock said:
Well today I put another $500 into my superannuation account....some may say I am crazy, I don't care.

I am looking at a long at a long-term savings plan.

Wealth takes a life-time to build, some keep saying that I want it all today.

I am a product of a want it all now generation.

here is more proof that I want nothing today and everything tomorrow (when I am 65)

And how about if u die before 65??

Enjoy the moment buddy, u only live once

Im not saying go sick; but "nothing" and "everything" are too extreme
 
Well I've for now given up on purchasing property. I considered buying a investment prop for around $120,000 but found out the stamp duty would cost around $3k. Who on afford that combined with a 20% deposit, conveyancing fees and other stuff?

Unbelievable!!
 
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