CanOz
Home runs feel good, but base hits pay bills!
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haemitite said:What iron ore alternative? What copper alternative? What uranium alternative?
CanOz said:China is right now, striking deals with African nations, Saudi Arabia, and Russia to supply resources. Some of these include:
Uranium from various parts of the African continent
Oil from Russia and Venezuela
Alumina (Bauxite) from Saudi Arabia
Copper from Sth. America.
Its all out there, and when your the biggest buyer, with the biggest chip on your shoulder, you'll get what you want.
ggmaximus said:I hope you're right about the BHP bounce realist, I hope it is huge..
having 7000 shares long bought @ $28ish hurts, small amount of prem selling calls on em this month is not going to cover the loss.
what trades you got open wayne?
Realist said:If I had spare money I'd buy more BHP and RIO for what it is today!
It is a bargain I reckon...
Would not be surprised to see it bounce back heavily tomorrow.
Hello Freeballinginawetsuit,Freeballinginawetsuit said:Wayne, I agree with Realist, BHP will be at $35 at some point in this financial year.
However I would have had a trailing stop on it in the present climate, Risk measures are necessary.
Wayne its absolute rubbish to think BHP will crash to $12 in the short term, Absolute rubbish!.
Magdoran said:Hello Freeballinginawetsuit,
Re Wayne’s $12 forecast - How do you know for sure it’s wrong? You must have one hell of a crystal ball!
$12 is quite possible. Sure, it’s not likely, but there have been real crash scenarios in the past - look at 1929, and 1987 for example – just look at the way commodities are trading now, and bond markets, interest rates, etc. Have you looked at crude oil, unleaded futures, copper and other base metals recently? Imagine the bottom fell out of them and what the effect it might have?
Try this on for size ala Douglas: Anything can happen, and every moment in the market is unique. The biggest crime many commit is not realising this. This is what risk management is all about, being prepared for any eventuality.
Wayne is illustrating this point. BHP may never make $12 this financial year, but it is conceivable, and on a par with your projection of $35. The question is, if the indications show the probability of one or other eventuality becoming a reality, do you have a plan of action to take advantage of these opportunities? Maybe BHP range trades around the current levels for the remainder of the year too – all possible.
Me, I just don’t know what will happen, but I can tell you that I will be looking for clues, and use my analysis and rules to trade the market whatever it does… maybe you may consider adopting a more open minded approach to the future, it may help you to avoid the negative effects of bearish moves, what do you think?
Regards
Magdoran
The crystal ball differs for fundies and techies. Not sure which one works better.Magdoran said:Re Wayne’s $12 forecast - How do you know for sure it’s wrong? You must have one hell of a crystal ball!
Try this on for size ala Douglas: Anything can happen, and every moment in the market is unique. The biggest crime many commit is not realising this. This is what risk management is all about, being prepared for any eventuality.
MichaelD said:The crystal ball differs for fundies and techies. Not sure which one works better.
Fundies operate on the notion that if they state the price a stock SHOULD be at often enough and loudly enough and in enough places, the market will surely heed their pleas to stop the pain.
Techies draw REALLY REALLY thick support lines on charts. Preferably red. The thicker and the redder the more likely the market will sit up and take notice and reverse at these points.
I know. Me too.wayneL said:Actually, I wasn't invoking the crystal ball when I said $12.
I was:
a) being somewhat mischievious (I thought that apparent with the use of silly graphics etc)
b) seeing what the response would be (ditto of a) really)
wayneL said:
Copper came back up a little, but I wouldn't hold my breath...The Mint Man said:Gold down, oil down.... ahh bugger it, easier to say Platinum up, Nickle up and everything else down. Dollar back down to around .75 even.
Possible sell of after this rise on friday?
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