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Stop_the_clock said:Anyway since the 1st of January 2007 I have traded well and dumped another $1,000 into my superannuation.
Fark buying a house in Australia, might as well buy one in New York!
What a bloody joke Australia has 20.5 million people, how many does New York have?
Stop_the_clock said:House cost nearly worst in world
HOUSING affordability in Australia is among the worst in the world, a further sign that many state and local government polices are inappropriate, the Residential Development Council said.
theasxgorilla said:This is propagana. Australia, Canada, Republic of Ireland, NZ, UK and USA is not "the world". There are 700 million people in continental Europe for starters with cities like Oslo, Copenhagen, Moscow, Zurich, Paris and Milan. What about Asia? Tokyo, Hong Kong, Singapore?
It's not just about housing BTW. There are other cost-of-living factors that will affect whether you can afford to save for and hold onto a house. For cost of living Sydney rates 19 and Melbourne comes in all the way down at 74. Perth, Brisbane and Adelaide are 93, 99 and 108 respecitively.
http://www.finfacts.ie/costofliving.htm
You are not disadvantaged by being in Australia. Go travelling. Exposure to the big picture might help your perspective.
Stop_the_clock said:Never compare houses around you, you must compare what the market is willing to pay!
theasxgorilla said:The one you choose to accept is the one that gets recorded in the median house price stats. If you let the tabloid articles cause you to panic and accept the lowest offer then all the ballyhoo about interest rate rises becomes a self full-filling prophecy. On the other hand you keep your nerve and wait until you receive a fair market value offer then great, at least you weren't a casualty of all the scare mongering.
Real estate is not like the share market and for this reason median house price statistics or lender valuations have limited meaninig when it comes to actually transacting a property.
Rafa said:Now Investment property is a completely different ball game...
But that shouldn't stop you from owning your own home to live in, if that is what you want.
moses said:Beg to differ.
Median prices are extremely resistant to noise. For example, a one off fire sale is unlikely to influence the median price by even $1, although it will affect the average price. This is because the median price is determined from the middle of the range of prices and is not influenced by data at the edges.
The median house price falls only when most houses are selling for less.
moses said:Beg to differ.
Median prices are extremely resistant to noise. For example, a one off fire sale is unlikely to influence the median price by even $1, although it will affect the average price. This is because the median price is determined from the middle of the range of prices and is not influenced by data at the edges.
The median house price falls only when most houses are selling for less.
The median price is heavily influenced by WHAT is selling as well as the price.moses said:Beg to differ.
Median prices are extremely resistant to noise. For example, a one off fire sale is unlikely to influence the median price by even $1, although it will affect the average price. This is because the median price is determined from the middle of the range of prices and is not influenced by data at the edges.
The median house price falls only when most houses are selling for less.
Rafa said:Exactly...i've been all over the world...
there is NO place like Oz...
Rafa said:Also, if cost of houses were so expensive, tell that that to the poms who are flocking here in their 10's of thousands and buying houses outright for cash.
Rafa said:i am not saying that house prices here won't fall, but you can't compare the average house prices in say Sydney to that of London, when in London, the avg house is 50sqm of living space on the third floor of a 100yr old building, and here its 200sqm of apartment, or more likely a free standing house on a 500sqm block... (at the very least)
wayneL said:Quite.
But there is no place like England, there is no place like Canada, New Zealand, the USA, Mexico, France etc etc etc.
Australia is only special to people who like it... many think it's a muckhole
This is due to the current overvaluation of the pound. For some balance, there are 10's of 000's of Aussies flocking to the UK as well. In fact there are 200,000 Aussies living in the UK.
This does have some validity, but there are other factors balancing this.
Again for balance. We recently sold some acreage with a house near Horsham (half an hour from London by Train). Acreage properties near Perth are comparable in price. WTF? This is ludicrous! If you want to play around with a couple nags, would you prefer to ride them at Wembley against international competition if so desired, or against 4 brumbies in a dustbowl at Muchea?
Property should be cheap here!!
jkool said:I think this is incorrect. Actualy the problem with median prices is exactly that - being influenced by the edges. Median price is the middle value from all the sales regardless of how many houses sold at each particular price (eg. if one house sells for 10 and ten houses sell for 1 the median price is still 5).
Well at least thats how I understood it until now
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