Glen48
Money can't buy Poverty
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Stocks returned 7% a year for 200 years ended 2004, according to Wharton professor Jeremy Siegel. That’s after subtracting an average of 3% a year for inflation, or the gradual rise in prices of ordinary goods. The plunge in stock prices over the past 16 months makes me all the more sure that shares are poised to deliver good returns over the next decade or two. Houses returned 0.4% a year over 114 years ended 2004, according to Yale professor Robert Shiller, co-creator of the most widely used index for house prices. That number is suspiciously close to zero. Indeed, it might have been zero, reckons Shiller, if not for two periods of aggressive house buying, one spurred by government incentives following World War II and another created by the Federal Reserve’s drastic interest rate cuts in 2002 and 2003.
Some thing to think about???
hello,
gee and so many waste there time posting about the 0% return, Shiller wastes his and the universities time on an asset class that provides a 0% return
he should hand back his qualification, cant see ANY unit in my block going for price i purchased for in 1998, stooge
more who have missed out, tall poppy syndrome
top effort kincella, look at the example of doctor out berwick way 1mil to 6mil check that one out Ned, 20yrs locked in Ned
you're a legend Kincella keep the great posts coming
thankyou
robots
Good morning robots
All is good here in sunny algarve. Went for a stroll around the town centre, had some lattes, very cheap here only 1 euro. Looked at some nice town houses here, all very cheap because they have been empty for some time. Will go for a drive in my new beemer later into the countryside to see how my villa is going. lol life is grand . Hope your life in Stkilledher is just as nice.
thankyou
hello,
sounds wonderful, keep the great times rolling and looks as though we both in paradise brother
thankyou
robots
Stocks returned 7% a year for 200 years ended 2004, according to Wharton professor Jeremy Siegel. That’s after subtracting an average of 3% a year for inflation, or the gradual rise in prices of ordinary goods. The plunge in stock prices over the past 16 months makes me all the more sure that shares are poised to deliver good returns over the next decade or two. Houses returned 0.4% a year over 114 years ended 2004, according to Yale professor Robert Shiller, co-creator of the most widely used index for house prices. That number is suspiciously close to zero. Indeed, it might have been zero, reckons Shiller, if not for two periods of aggressive house buying, one spurred by government incentives following World War II and another created by the Federal Reserve’s drastic interest rate cuts in 2002 and 2003.
Some thing to think about???
well sitting in my seedy hotel in melbourne right now , im looking out the window at ALL the cranes doin there thang around southbank and the city centre area and wondering if all these you bewt apartments are actually sold off the plan or do i get a bargain on one of them when they are finally completed ......
on a side note ...... you guys that live here sure are spoiled for good food . just been down lygon street and a had a loverly fish curry, tastede bewtiful ...... no latees for me tho ..... bourbons just fine
thankyou
hello,
gee and so many waste there time posting about the 0% return, Shiller wastes his and the universities time on an asset class that provides a 0% return
he should hand back his qualification, cant see ANY unit in my block going for price i purchased for in 1998, stooge
more who have missed out, tall poppy syndrome
top effort kincella, look at the example of doctor out berwick way 1mil to 6mil check that one out Ned, 20yrs locked in Ned
you're a legend Kincella keep the great posts coming
thankyou
robots
Over the last 40-50 years have seen an ever increasing level of debt accumulated by the Australian population, with allot of that going to pay larger and larger amounts for used properties (unproductive). This is why our debt to GDP ratio is at an all time high.
The question I was asking that no-one here has given an answer two is in the future where are the buyers coming from?? Who can, or would want to take on the debt burden to keep prices going up??
at the macro level, that's equivalent say to an individual having a $50k mortgage if they earn $50k pa - that's hardly such a huge problem to pay off if they choose to is it?
How can you say money going into housing is unproductive?
So IMO it is wrong to say that just because money made available through finance is spent on housing (regardless of price level) is an "unproductive" use of that money.
See how it works??
That's a little disingenuous isn't it ? I was of the understanding that was for every single person and yet most babies and kids don't hold mortgages, to use your example.
good news for small business....so long as the rates are the right price
small business are the biggest employers......so maybe some more light at the end of the tunnel
resi props are the backbone of the country and small business...the banks require that house as security...
Australia’s leading debt rating/collection agency Dun & Bradstreet raised the financial distress alert last month when they reported that the number of companies rated as having a high risk of financial distress or failure was up 12 per cent on the previous year and was 20 per cent up on 2007 figures. D&B reported a 40 per cent rise in debt referrals in November and December and a sharp increase in payment terms which took debtor days to the highest level since 2001.
Since then there has been a significant further deterioration and the level of impending financial distress among business enterprises has risen to levels that D&B have not seen since the early 1990s.
Hail KING ROBOT"S et al:
They were right and us poor ones have to eat humble pie...Looks like I missing out on another boom
AUST DATA REVIEW] The recovery in demand for housing finance continued in Australia; with the number of home loans approvals rising firmly for the fourth straight mth in a row. Approvals gained by a further 3.5% over Jan, less than forecasts on a 4.0% gain but after Dec's prelim 6.4% surge was revised up to a higher 6.7%. Meanwhile, total value of owner occupied loans rose a further 0.7% after rebounding 6.0% prior. Of the latter, the value of invt lending fell back by -3.8%, but owner occupied housing gained a further 2.3%. Jan's ensuing gains continue to be primarily driven by ongoing demand for new home purchases after the Govt's handout to first home buyers in Dec. However a broad recovery is also starting to be evident in response to RBA's aggressive rate cuts since Sept.
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