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The responsibility for 4 deaths and hundreds of house fires rests solely on Kevin Rudd's shoulders.......Two public servants had two days to cost a multi billion dollar project and all done in secrecy.

Rudd wanted the project to be complete within 2 years ...the two public servants recommended to Rudd that it be over 5 years.

Can't wait to hear what Rudd and Garrett have to say in the witness box.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...ays-inquiry-told/story-fn59niix-1226856877459
 
noco said:
Rudd wanted the project to be complete within 2 years ...the two public servants recommended to Rudd that it be over 5 years.
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That's what tends to happen in the public service unfortunately and it's not limited to the Australian PS (same with the states) and it makes little difference if it's Labor or Liberal in government at the time.

A "technical person" recommends a sensible way of going about a program. Need to spend $x and it will take a certain amount of time to complete. Then along come the politicians or senior bureaucrats who know nothing of the realities of phyiscally doing things in the real world and try to speed it up. Then it turn to poo in a big way.

Been there, done this sort of thing in the PS. It's not until an actual crisis hits that all of a sudden the technical guy / girl is a hero and everyone listens. By then it's usually too late to do anything other than come up with a costly workaround.

We desperately need to get more "practical" people into politics in my opinion. Someone other than lawyers and union types. Someone who comprehends that putting twice as many people on a job doesn't necessarily get it done in half the time. Someone who understands why you can't plan everything down to the day and need some flexibiltiy. Eg a 5 year project so we'd expect to do 15 - 25% in any given year, not necessarily exactly 20% per year, and please don't ask me exactly what's happening with it on the 27th of October 2016 (to pick a random date) as planning in such detail that far in advance is pointless in most cases.:2twocents
 
Smurf1976 said:
That's what tends to happen in the public service unfortunately and it's not limited to the Australian PS (same with the states) and it makes little difference if it's Labor or Liberal in government at the time.

A "technical person" recommends a sensible way of going about a program. Need to spend $x and it will take a certain amount of time to complete. Then along come the politicians or senior bureaucrats who know nothing of the realities of phyiscally doing things in the real world and try to speed it up. Then it turn to poo in a big way.

Been there, done this sort of thing in the PS. It's not until an actual crisis hits that all of a sudden the technical guy / girl is a hero and everyone listens. By then it's usually too late to do anything other than come up with a costly workaround.

We desperately need to get more "practical" people into politics in my opinion. Someone other than lawyers and union types. Someone who comprehends that putting twice as many people on a job doesn't necessarily get it done in half the time. Someone who understands why you can't plan everything down to the day and need some flexibiltiy. Eg a 5 year project so we'd expect to do 15 - 25% in any given year, not necessarily exactly 20% per year, and please don't ask me exactly what's happening with it on the 27th of October 2016 (to pick a random date) as planning in such detail that far in advance is pointless in most cases.:2twocents
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A little off topic to a point, but I would like to see some law established to have all personnel, before entering into politics, study a special course in politics at university.

We have too many brainless people in parliament who should be sweeping floors as pilots in the milking sheds on a dairy farm .....Pile it here and pile it there.
 
THE costings for Labor's home insulation program were drawn on the back of a napkin by a senior politician, possibly Kevin Rudd, and an industry representative, a former government contractor claims.
Troy Delbridge, a technical advisor for the scheme, has told a royal commission how he learned about the napkin when he asked a departmental colleague to see the program's costings.
Under-cross examination by counsel assisting Keith Wilson, Dr Delbridge said the senior politician who wrote on it might have been Mr Rudd.
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http://www.news.com.au/national/bre...umes-in-brisbane/story-e6frfku9-1226901604114

Well I suppose Stephen Conroy drew his business plan (read idea) on a napkin for the NBN so what is the difference? :banghead:
 
For all our complaints about bias within the ABC, they have been assiduous in reporting in some detail on at least "PM" the damning evidence against the Labor government exposed in the Royal Commission.

Next week will apparently see ex government ministers called to give evidence.
 
Julia said:
For all our complaints about bias within the ABC...
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Rather than being 'Left biased' I think there is a case for saying that the ABC is 'government biased', ie it doesn't want to bite the hand that feeds it.
 
SirRumpole said:
Rather than being 'Left biased' I think there is a case for saying that the ABC is 'government biased', ie it doesn't want to bite the hand that feeds it.
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In the same way it could be said that News Corp is "Right biased". They don't want to bite the corporate hand that feeds them. :2twocents
 
From what I saw, Peter Garrett gave a very good account of himself. He didn't shirk the responsibility and was thanked by the family of a deceased installer for his frank evidence.

An intelligent and dedicated man who was set up imo by KRudd.
 
noco said:
Rudd has engaged a $15,000 a day barrister to get him out of trouble for the 4 deaths and the hundred plus house fires he created through his stupidity.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...ink-batts-scheme/story-fnihsrf2-1226885510728
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Mr. Rudd's outlay of $15,000 a day may very well get him off the hook.....A lot of argy bargy went on regarding release of cabinet documents.....the Commissioner will make a decision today

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...royal-commission/story-fnihsrf2-1226917332553
 
SirRumpole said:
From what I saw, Peter Garrett gave a very good account of himself. He didn't shirk the responsibility and was thanked by the family of a deceased installer for his frank evidence.

An intelligent and dedicated man who was set up imo by KRudd.
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Garrett said he was "gutted" when he heard about the death of an installer. I believe him.
 
Shaggy - "It wasn't me" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g5Hz17C4is&feature=kp

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