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So far 7 teams have entered.

Sean's Prawns - Kennas
Neitz - Junior
Monkey Magic - Grinder
Mofra's Maniacs - Mofra
The Pie Nights - GumbyLearner
maxrox - ?
finskeitos -?

Still 9 spots left in the ASF league.

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I might be wrong but I seem to recall that the Little Green Frogs were ASF Premiers last season.

Anyway, we're back again for 2011. Good luck to all, but DYOR.

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10 teams have entered.

Sean's Prawns - Kennas
Neitz - Junior
Monkey Magic - Grinder
Mofra's Maniacs - Mofra
The Pie Nights - GumbyLearner
maxrox - ?
finskeitos -?
Little Green Frogs - McCoy Pauley
Fantasy Hawks- ?
Busan Superstars - ?


Still 6 spots remaining. Take them while there available. $1000 a week for the best team in Australia and/or $55,000 for the best team of the season.

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After having a bit of a grin at the players and prices, I have come up with this mishmash.

It's probably ultimately flawed for any Super Coach veteran but for my second season hopefully
I have learned some mistakes.

Anyone is free to comment on any weaknesses/strengths on my selection.

DEF: Goddard, Gibbs, Deledio, Enright, Drummond, P Davis, Laidler

DEF RESERVES: B Smith, Faulks, Cripps

MID:Judd, Hodge,Petterd, Swallow D, Gaff, Heppell,

MID RESERVES: Krakouer, Polec, Conca

RUCKS: Sandilands, Clark

RUCKS RESERVES:Tippett J, Vardy

FWDS: Riewoldt N, Didak, O'Keefe, Higgins, Strijk, Petrie, Ablett N

FWDS RESERVES: Mzungu, Richardson, Callinan

$2,300 left over out of 10 million

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Fantasy Hawks is my team

Probably need to have some slightly different strategies this year with the bye and the fact you can also swap players between positions if they are listed as multi-positional players. I've tried to pick reserves that can be moved between positions to help cover injuries and byes.

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GumbyLearner said:

After having a bit of a grin at the players and prices, I have come up with this mishmash.

It's probably ultimately flawed for any Super Coach veteran but for my second season hopefully
I have learned some mistakes.

Anyone is free to comment on any weaknesses/strengths on my selection.

DEF: Goddard, Gibbs, Deledio, Enright, Drummond, P Davis, Laidler

DEF RESERVES: B Smith, Faulks, Cripps

MID:Judd, Hodge,Petterd, Swallow D, Gaff, Heppell,

MID RESERVES: Krakouer, Polec, Conca

RUCKS: Sandilands, Clark

RUCKS RESERVES:Tippett J, Vardy

FWDS: Riewoldt N, Didak, O'Keefe, Higgins, Strijk, Petrie, Ablett N

FWDS RESERVES: Mzungu, Richardson, Callinan

$2,300 left over out of 10 million

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My understanding is that both Didak and O'Keefe have had injury-interrupted pre-seasons and, well, you'd have to be under a rock in Victoria not to know what's happened with the Aints this year.

Drummond is always an injury risk. Phil Davis might get more regular game-time with the Crows but he didn't seem to be the type to score in SC last season. Laidler apparently has been burning up the track down at the Cattery but is he best 22 material? I'm not sure.

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McCoy Pauley said:

My understanding is that both Didak and O'Keefe have had injury-interrupted pre-seasons and, well, you'd have to be under a rock in Victoria not to know what's happened with the Aints this year.

Drummond is always an injury risk. Phil Davis might get more regular game-time with the Crows but he didn't seem to be the type to score in SC last season. Laidler apparently has been burning up the track down at the Cattery but is he best 22 material? I'm not sure.

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Thanks for your opinion McCoy Pauley.

I heard that Didak may have been injured but he is an SC gun same goes for O'Keefe. Maybe McGlynn at Sydney is about 7K cheaper than O'kEefe did rack up some big scores last year and is MPP as well.
Will have to keep an eye on the injury lists. Haven't been in Vic for the last 12 months.

I think the Aints are used to adversity, so I think I'll stick with Goddard and Roo this season. <- Notice the one eye, if only I could change that face to red,white and black.

I agree with you about Drummond. But he is an extremely precise kick of the football (probably top 5 in the league) and if he doesn't get injured his effective kicks, marks and rebound 50's will rack up his SC price pretty fast. Maybe Harbrow's run and carry game at the Suns will get 40 possessions a game in a team of mainly kids. He is only $14,000 more expensive.

I liked Davis last season. He didn't score highly in SC but the crows were pretty **** last year too. He does seem to be a player who would slot in at CHB just nicely, now that GC bought Bock.

Laidler has moved to Carlton and I reckon they don't have a backline and Jarrod Waite is likely to punch someone and get suspended. Maybe Duigan, he's a mature-aged rookie and about 170K cheaper. Was headed for the Sudan now he's at Carlton. Laidlers not a bad choice at $279K. It's hard to choose when you only have 10 mill to spend and 33 players to choose from.

Other MPPs I've had a look at pricewise are

Drew Petrie. (RUC/FWD) Recovered from a broken foot and returned late in 2010 to break the other. The big man can kick goals though.

Tippett J. (RUC/FWD) May get a game in a team of mainly kids.

Daniher D. (DEF/FWD) May get a game and good bench cover for an injury prone FWD line like last year. Brown, Riewoldt, Franklin etc.. All injured last year.

Wilson Callum (DEF/FWD) Looked promising last year but West Coke have still got to become a serious footy club again. Daniel Kerr looks cheap but he did look even better when Judd and Cousins were there.

Murphy Rob (DEF/FWD) Brilliant kick but can score 140 one week and 40 the next. Too inconsistent for SC purposes.

Gilbee Lindsay (FWD/MID) Similar to Drummond, beautiful kick of the football and can be a SC gun. But is pricey given the budget.

I like Krakouer because he is MPP and only 200K.

In the FWD's
Chapman is a gun but looks too pricey and injury prone.
Franklin is a gun but will probably belt someone. No good having 522K sitting on the bench.
Jonathon Brown same as Chapman

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Like the MPP strategy - have a few, and Zakarahis isn't in my team yet but am looking to slip him in somewhere. Wont take Higgins out; as well as being a Bulldog )) he is running PBs this pre-season.

I have Buddy in my team - told he is training well, just need to have cover on the bench for his inevitable suspension.

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Mofra said:

Like the MPP strategy - have a few, and Zakarahis isn't in my team yet but am looking to slip him in somewhere. Wont take Higgins out; as well as being a Bulldog )) he is running PBs this pre-season.

I have Buddy in my team - told he is training well, just need to have cover on the bench for his inevitable suspension.

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I think having a few MPP's across each line is important for both injuries and byes.
I'm still trying to work out the impact of byes for 2011 Supercoach. There are multiple team bye rounds and single team rounds. It would suck if you had 9 players out due to a bye and 5 rookies who weren't selected to play that weekend sitting on your bench. Still trying to work out a strategy 5 weeks to go. 5 spots left in the ASF league now.

Did find this analysis of Deledio on yoursupercoachcoach

At 23 years old and MPP (DEF/MID) looks difficult to leave out.

Courtesy of yoursupercoachcoach

http://www.yoursupercoachcoach.com/main/misc/featured/yscc-buyers-guide-brett-deledio/

Key Figures
Club: Richmond
Position: Defender / Midfielder
Age: 23
Games: 128
2010 Season Average: 102
Highest Season Average: 103 (2009)
2011 Opening Price: $495,900
Bye Rounds: 11 & 19*
Status: Premium

Positives
In 2010, in his first season in the backline, Deledio ranked seventh in the AFL for balls won off opposition, fourth for total metres gained and second in the AFL for inside/rebound 50s combined. Available as both a defender and midfielder for the first time in his career; this former number one draft pick is set to be one of the most popularly picked players of 2011. One of Deledio’s greatest strengths as a SuperCoach asset is his durability – he hasn’t missed a game since Round 17, 2007. In fact, since debuting in round 1 of his first season in 2005, Deledio has played 128 of a possible 132 games! Pre-season reports out of Richmond have Deledio training the house down, he’s been playing that lucrative ‘quarterback’ role in their pre-season drills, and if he can even come close to replicating the way Luke Hodge plays that role – Deledio’s just about a must-buy.

Negatives
If recent history tells us anything it’s that Deledio can take awhile to get going. In 2010, Deledio averaged 96 in the first 11 games and 108 in the last 11. In 2009, Deledio averaged 94 in the first half of the year only to storm home averaging 113 in the second half. The off-season recruitment of midfielders Shaun Grigg and Bachar Houli, the impending return of Nathan Foley from injury and Mitch Morton’s move into the wing will see competition for midfield time at an all time high at Punt Road. As such, Deledio will be finding it harder to drift into the midfield this season. Lucky for us – we are still talking about Richmond, who are only in the second year of Hardwick’s regime, there should still be plenty of ball entering Richmond’s backline to keep Deledio busy and most importantly – scoring well.

Byes – Round 11 & Round 19*
As was mentioned earlier, Deledio has traditionally been slow to start seasons. Whilst this normally would have called for Deledio to be kept as an upgrade target for later in the season, the late timing of his byes changes things up a little bit. A potential negative stemming from his bye schedule is that finding bench cover becomes more and more difficult as the year goes on as the best rookies are traded for cash or upgraded. Fortunately, Deledio’s dual positioning should help ease that burden. Richmond share their round 19 bye with Brisbane and Sydney; but at this stage that doesn’t look like it’ll be a problem. Neither the Lions nor the Swans look to have any ‘must consider’ backline players this year; although Malceski, Drummond and Adcock might be given a run in a few 2011 SuperCoach teams.

Conclusion
Deledio looks a very tempting pick this year thanks to his move into the SuperCoach backline. There are not many defenders that have the capacity to average over 100 for the season, let alone consistently, meanwhile Deledio should be able to match, if not improve upon, his average of 102 from 2010. Whilst Deledio has typically been a slow starter, his maturing both as a person and as a player, in tandem with the maturing of Richmond’s list as a whole should see some degree of correction in this area of his game. Guaranteed 100+ average in the backline? You’d be crazy to say no.

Predicted 2011 Average: 105
Starting Safety Rating: Lock it in
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Although this not Dreamteam (different comp) where players get points for clangers, turnovers to the opposition, out on the full, don't get points for hard ball/loose ball gets etc...) that's why it sucks in my opinion.

Here are the bye rounds to consider for 2011

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I've selected a random team to fit the budget at this point.

Will refine as the days go on and practice game results are fielded..

To me, apart from picking the key 2-3 players and Capt, the key is to pick players who will actually take the field over the first few months and play OK with some up and coming juniors on the Reserves who will eventually play.

It's the newbies that no one has seen who will be the difference.

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kennas said:

I've selected a random team to fit the budget at this point.

Will refine as the days go on and practice game results are fielded..

To me, apart from picking the key 2-3 players and Capt, the key is to pick players who will actually take the field over the first few months and play OK with some up and coming juniors on the Reserves who will eventually play.

It's the newbies that no one has seen who will be the difference.

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Spot on Kennas.

Last year I was lucky to pick up Barlow for 100K went to over 500K before being injured. Rockliff for 100K went up to 400K. Podsiadly for 90K went to 446K.

There's money in them thar rookies.

Problems is I didn't listen to you last year, used up all my trades before the finals. Finished in the top 4 and got hammered in straight sets with no trades,surplus cash or bench cover for injuries.
Hopefully, I learn this time.

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GumbyLearner said:

Problems is I didn't listen to you last year, used up all my trades before the finals. Finished in the top 4 and got hammered in straight sets with no trades,surplus cash or bench cover for injuries.
Hopefully, I learn this time.

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Mate, I'm crap at this game. Need to be living in Melbs and getting the Herald Sun each day to really know what's going on. As a temporary Sydney sider, I can sit back and claim complete ignorance.

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kennas said:

Mate, I'm crap at this game. Need to be living in Melbs and getting the Herald Sun each day to really know what's going on. As a temporary Sydney sider, I can sit back and claim complete ignorance.

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This is only my 2nd year. I'm still pretty crap too. Everyone was crap in 2011 except for Lachlan. He was like top 0.1% in Australia last year.

He had all the rookies too like Scully, Trengrove, Dustin Martin, Barlow etc.. the cheap now premiums like Maceski, JPod etc...

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kennas said:

Mate, I'm crap at this game. Need to be living in Melbs and getting the Herald Sun each day to really know what's going on. As a temporary Sydney sider, I can sit back and claim complete ignorance.

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There are plenty of online resources out there to help you plan your SC or DT teams. I make regular use of them and therefore I don't really refer to the Herald-Sun or the Age for background.

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McCoy Pauley said:

There are plenty of online resources out there to help you plan your SC or DT teams. I make regular use of them and therefore I don't really refer to the Herald-Sun or the Age for background.

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Yep - the Hun have a "special" $20 pa offer which just tells you what plenty of other websites do for free.
Quite alot of people take it very seriously, but the rest of us can use the resources/opinions they put up and enjoy the comp.

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Hi all

ASF Supercoach now has 14 teams. There are still spots for 2 more players.

Or should we invite Shane Crawford to join our league? Which would still leave one more spot.

P.S. Looking at bargain basement rookies (incl. matured aged rookies) in the pre-season so far I have been impressed with the following: (MPP denotes multi-positional player)

Swallow - Gold Coast
Toy - Gold Coast
Matera - Gold Coast
Bennell - Gold Coast
Mzungu MPP - Freo
B Smith - Crows
Motlop - Cats (injured last season still cheap)
Gaff - Eagles
Tarrant - North (see above RE: Motlop)
Wallis - Scrays (Father/Son)
Duigan - Blues
Conca - Tiges
Atley - North
Derrickz - Tiges
McNamara - Wobbles
Nicholson MPP - Dees
McKernan MPP - Crows
Walsh - Sainters
Polec - Lions
Heppell MPP - Dons
Puopolo - Hawks
Menagola - Hawks
Sumner - Swans

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Menagola is injured, Gumby. I doubt he'd play any games for Hawthorn this season anyway.

There's one young player at Hawthorn I'm keeping a close eye on who has been impressive in pre-season, but I'll keep his name under my hat for a while.

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GumbyLearner said:

Hi all

ASF Supercoach now has 14 teams. There are still spots for 2 more players.

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Hi Guys

Duckman's Nuts have entered as the 15th team if you will have me.

(Being my second year, hopefully I will have remembered all the things NOT to do. Like picking Drew Petrie in my starting lineup and not realising he had a broken leg!!!).

Cheers
Duckman

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Kim Dutchies allstars has taken the final spot if everyone is alright with this?

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16 Teams have entered. Comp starts on Thursday March 24. Blues v Tiges game will be a partial lockout so select players from those teams prior to the first bounce.

The final two teams to enter were:

KimDuthiesallstars - Sammy84 &
Duckmans Nuts

Good luck all