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Henry Tax Review - Discussion of recommendations

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The purpose of this thread is as a discussion of the recommendations in the Henry tax review in the absence of party political discussion.

Henry's recommendations as follows;

http://taxreview.treasury.gov.au/co...ons/papers/Final_Report_Part_1/chapter_12.htm

Below are some recommendations from the review with additional thoughts on further simplification.

Recommendation 2: Progressivity in the tax and transfer system should be delivered through the personal income tax rates scale and transfer payments. A high tax-free threshold with a constant marginal rate for most people should be introduced to provide greater transparency and simplicity.
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Recommendation 5: The Medicare levy and structural tax offsets — the low income, senior Australians, pensioner and beneficiary tax offsets — should be removed as separate components of the system and incorporated into the personal income tax rates scale. If a health levy is to be retained, it could be applied as a proportion of the net tax payable by an individual.
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Recommendation 11: A standard deduction should be introduced to cover work-related expenses and the cost of managing tax affairs to simplify personal tax for most taxpayers. Taxpayers should be able to choose either to take a standard deduction or to claim actual expenses where they are above the claims threshold, with full substantiation.
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Any standard deduction should be integrated into marginal tax rates with an increase in the tax free threshold the most logical option. Beyond that there should be no work related deduction for wage and salary earners. Overall this would be simpler and would better preserve the income tax base.

Recommendation 12: There should be a tighter nexus between the deductibility of the expense and its role in producing income.

Agreed. Inparticular, geared investment losses should only be claimable against like investment income. A property owner for example should only be able to gear against income from property (as an asset class) and not wage/salary income. This would strengthen the income tax base allowing for further reductions in marginal rates.

Recommendation 14: Provide a 40 per cent savings income discount to individuals for non-business related:

a.net interest income;
b.net residential rental income (including related interest expenses);
c.capital gains (and losses); and
d.interest expenses related to listed shares held by individuals as non-business investments.


This is an interesting one and if applied should extend to all expenses relating to investment income. Depending on overall budget balance it could be started at a lower rate and increased as budget constraints allow.

With regard to franked dividends, these should simply be tax exempt in the hands of the shareholder. This would strengthen the corporate tax base and possibly increase the scope for a reduction in the corporate tax rate (to 25% ?). An investor should then not be allowed to claim deductions against such tax exempt income.
 
What was wrong with the original thread?

There is no need to start another redundant, double-handling thread here.

Geeez ASF is frustrating sometimes!!!! :banghead:
 
What was wrong with the original thread?
Too many subject areas within to keep track of individual issues within.

Some specific elements may be better treated as subjects in their own right, the resources rent tax for example.
 
Too many subject areas within to keep track of individual issues within.

Some specific elements may be better treated as subjects in their own right, the resources rent tax for example.

Still can't see the need for a new thread.

"Law is order, and good law is good order."
-Aristotle
 
Recommendation 11: A standard deduction should be introduced to cover work-related expenses and the cost of managing tax affairs to simplify personal tax for most taxpayers.
You can claim up to $300 without having to substantiate the claim now. Is that not a standard deduction?
As for tax accountant fees, they are widely varied so what is a "standard" deduction?

Taxpayers should be able to choose either to take a standard deduction or to claim actual expenses where they are above the claims threshold, with full substantiation.
Isn't that very similar to how it is now?
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You typed ...
Any standard deduction should be integrated into marginal tax rates with an increase in the tax free threshold the most logical option.
So what, take the measly standard deduction ($300, $400, $500 ?) during the financial year and give it back at the end?

You typed ...
Beyond that there should be no work related deduction for wage and salary earners.
So the wage/salary earner forks out 2 k for work expenses such as tools, clothing and safety equipment during the year and that is not claimable and you think that is the way to go?

If so I know exactly what colour collar you wear. ;)
 
What was wrong with the original thread?

There is no need to start another redundant, double-handling thread here.

Geeez ASF is frustrating sometimes!!!! :banghead:

The ASF right had clearly hijacked the other thread.

As for the Henry Tax Review, well there's lots of stuff in it that unfortunately is all to easy to put in the politically "to hard basket"
 
The ASF right had clearly hijacked the other thread.

As for the Henry Tax Review, well there's lots of stuff in it that unfortunately is all to easy to put in the politically "to hard basket"

Yeah like the $25,000 tax free threshold.
So when does "the hard left" ie. Kev, Swannie, Tenner etc.. stand up for ordinary Australians. By imposing a greater impost on the best employers of our nation eg. Super contributions etc...

Small business. :confused:
 
Neither side of politics would make any changes that were unpopular at this time because of the looming election. The main action will be taken early in the next parliamentary term. Henry will realise this. I suggest that his determinations will receive plenty of attention and boths sides will promote the popular aspects as policy now and reserve the rest for action in 2011. What will be popular for one parties supporters will differ from what is popular for supporters of the other. What will appeal to swinging voters will also get maximum coverage from both parties. I guess it is a long term plan that is not aimed at instant success.
 
So the wage/salary earner forks out 2 k for work expenses such as tools, clothing and safety equipment during the year and that is not claimable and you think that is the way to go?

If so I know exactly what colour collar you wear. ;)
How many pairs of steel capped boots or overalls are there to a laptop ? ;)

Recommendation 11: A standard deduction should be introduced to cover work-related expenses and the cost of managing tax affairs to simplify personal tax for most taxpayers.
You can claim up to $300 without having to substantiate the claim now. Is that not a standard deduction?
As for tax accountant fees, they are widely varied so what is a "standard" deduction?

Taxpayers should be able to choose either to take a standard deduction or to claim actual expenses where they are above the claims threshold, with full substantiation.
Isn't that very similar to how it is now?
It is and that's the problem.

Whether it's blue collar or white collar it's an easy target for abuse. How many laptops for example get purchased as a work related item and get used for that purpose for, say, 5 minutes per year or one work related flight from Melbourne to Sydney ?
Full substantiation my foot. This is impossible to effectively audit without a taxman on every street corner.

Investment wage and salary deductions are in the same catagory whether it's someone looking to reduce tax by speculating on investment property, economically unviable agricultural schemes or any other so-called investment.

The former has helped lead to a residential property bubble which is now hard to contain and the latter ended with billions of tax and investor dollars simply down the drain.
 
Recommendation 11: A standard deduction should be introduced to cover work-related expenses and the cost of managing tax affairs to simplify personal tax for most taxpayers.

You would think that a standard deduction would be related to the type of work carried out. A nurse would have a standard deduction of $x, a manager would have a standard deduction of $y, an accountant would have a standard deduction of $z, etc. The 'standard deduction' should also be realistic if they really wanted to simplify the tax system so that people actually use it.

brty
 
Whether it's blue collar or white collar it's an easy target for abuse.

Though it's okay for every dollar we work for and every dollar we spend to churn a percentage of tax throughout that dollars circulation. What limits are there to government regulation of our lives by taxing everything that exists?
I know who are the ones getting fleeced and it aint the government of the day.
 
Though it's okay for every dollar we work for and every dollar we spend to churn a percentage of tax throughout that dollars circulation. What limits are there to government regulation of our lives by taxing everything that exists?
I know who are the ones getting fleeced and it aint the government of the day.
Henry focusus on four different bases for tax, most of which overlap resulting in multiple taxation of the same dollar.

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