Has the 100 year Jihad (war) begun ... ???

[Tisme]

Too bad that our friends the Saudis are the ones who fund the most extreme Islamic schools all over the world.

Maybe we should point that finger? Oh wait, sorry, we are in bed with them so they get a free pass to keep funding Wahhabism globally.



Best start with the Indians, Pakistanis and other Asian cultures which do this, considering the volume delta.



Um...so lock up people who disobey the law? Don't we already? Somebody (aside from the rich) getting a free pass that I missed?



We already do this.



Sedition laws passed post 9/11 by the Howard Government and supported by the states (after an initial period of surprising nondumbassery on the part of the states) already allow charges of sedition to be brought up under extremely vague and broad conditions that have been criticised by every law expert with two brain cells to rub together.



I guess this kind of idiotic racism is to be expected in a thread titled "Has the 100 year Jihad begun"

I'm guessing that was one of those pipe, slippers, rose coloured glasses and superior intellect type replies You lost my admiration of your adroit perspicacity when you resorted to underhanded abuse at Rumpole's input..... reminiscent of schoolyard mud slinging

My post still stands based on the lack of application of points mentioned; there's a difference between gunna and doin'.

 

[Tisme]

Sorry to top you out of your pole position Luutzu but as a white, glass wearing 40y male, I used to be tested for drug/explosive at every check point in Oz airport I was going thru
something like 8 times out of 10 or something like this
last week was most recent;
They must guess I was not born in Oz.....
If I were muslim or non white male I would raise a discrimination fuss!!
actually, this is maybe why I am checked so often, because I will not raise a fuss
and for info, the only time I triggered something was when back from a mine (explosive traces)!!!
I am also a non drug user

Yep it's a competition between my (real) blond haired, blue eyed daughter and me to see who gets pinged with the rod.

In the USA they parade my name on the screen above the departure gate, which means they are checking through the database to see if I'm going to do bad things.

I'm thinking of getting some Roman sandals, a thobe and dishdash so they will leave me alone.

 

[Tisme]

Stage 1:

http://articles.economictimes.india...et-china-national-tourism-administration-cnta

China has made a strong bid to tap the USD 600 billion Muslim tourism market by showcasing the rich culture of its Muslim minorities in two provinces, including the restive Xinjiang.

Stage 2:

http://www.barenakedislam.com/2013/...muslims-for-allegedly-spreading-jihad-online/

The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region, home to Uyghur Muslims, has punished 256 people for spreading online rumors that jeopardized social stability, and arrested another 139 for “spreading religious extremism, including jihad.”

Stage 3:

http://shoebat.com/2014/06/27/chine...ic-violence-take-13-muslim-jihadists-execute/

China executed 13 people today for “terrorist attacks” in the far western region of Xinjiang, state media said, while a further three were sentenced to death for staging a lethal attack in Tiananmen Square in Beijing.

 

[sinner]

My post still stands based on the lack of application of points mentioned; there's a difference between gunna and doin'.

Evidence please! You claim lack of application,

You want to defund the Islamic schools but who actually funds them? Rich Wahhabist Saudis, Qataris, Emiratis, by and large. Our supposed friends in the Arab world. They would be defunded in a second if we had our priorities straight. Instead we appoint them to run the UN Human Rights Council.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...n-secret-deal-over-human-rights-council-place

Is there any evidence that we don't prosecute men who marry off their children? I mean how do you even know about this aside from state prosecutions that make the news? The last set of idiots I heard about this all got done. The father, the supposed husband and the idiotic Imam.

Busted bein' a moron http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wor...ducting-child-marriage-cops-article-1.1610185

Take a look at this to see the extent of child marriage in our country, yet you only seem concerned about the Muslims who do this, instead of being keen to tackle proportionally to volume by country. There's a word for that kind of mentality, that word is bigot.

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/re...rried-every-year/story-fnet09y4-1226987689946

We prosecute all people who disobey any law, it really doesn't matter if it conflicts with your religion or not! I challenge any claim to the contrary to please put up some supporting evidence.

Actually, it'd be good if you could start by simply giving an example of a law which supposedly conflicts with Islam (you know, that umbrella term for many disparate sects and tribes that is not actually the demonic-cult-for-brown-people you're making it out to be), my guess is that anything you find would also conflict with the Talmud or Pentateuch. That's the funny thing about the Koran, if you've read the Bible or Talmud, a bunch of bits are pretty familiar.

You also claim that Centrelink funds the indolent without providing a single shred of evidence. One has to wonder if you have ever been to Centrelink, certainly amongst those I know unlucky enough to be unemployed it was not a walk amongst the roses to get a cent, regardless of their previous economic contribution.

Finally you seem to imply that there is no application of the sedition law...even though as I stated it is broad and vague, easily used by any law enforcement or intelligence agency that has cause to do so. Here's a summary so you can catch up on what those laws entail.

https://www.humanrights.gov.au/human-rights-guide-australias-counter-terrorism-laws#3_5

It seems obvious to me that if there was even a speck of seditious activity, those acting so would be nailed to the wall. Perhaps what you think is seditious is not, not even under Howard era laws passed under the grips of the feverish fear of a decade ago?

there's a difference between gunna and doin'.

When are ya gunna provide some evidence for yer claims.

reminiscent of schoolyard mud slinging

I stand by my claim and challenge for anyone to deconstruct it: the claim that "most Muslims" are having lots of kids to rort welfare is nothing short of idiotic racism.

As for your comments on the Uighurs, try a read of this to get some on the ground context

http://www.abc.net.au/foreign/content/2014/s4097689.htm

which was preceded by this

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...ndent-program-on-uighurs-20140930-10nx6q.html

 

[SirRumpole]

It seems obvious to me that if there was even a speck of seditious activity, those acting so would be nailed to the wall. Perhaps what you think is seditious is not, not even under Howard era laws passed under the grips of the feverish fear of a decade ago?

It's not that obvious to me.

Charge one Imam and risk riots on the streets ?

A brave government would charge a hate preacher but I'm not sure that we have a government that brave.

What happened to the 15 year old kid that was preaching jihad at school ? Who was teaching him and were they charged ?

 

[sinner]

It's not that obvious to me.

Charge one Imam and risk riots on the streets ?

A brave government would charge a hate preacher but I'm not sure that we have a government that brave.

Sorry Rumpy! Still waiting on evidence from your previous claim before we get to this one.

What happened to the 15 year old kid that was preaching jihad at school ? Who was teaching him and were they charged ?

Are you talking about the kid in the article that you pasted above? The one where a single report of "preaching jihad at lunchtime" triggered a statewide audit of prayer groups at every single school?

 

[SirRumpole]

Are you talking about the kid in the article that you pasted above? The one where a single report of "preaching jihad at lunchtime" triggered a statewide audit of prayer groups at every single school?

Do you have a problem with an audit ?

 

[sinner]

Do you have a problem with an audit ?

The point is that you're claiming we can't prosecute haters, meanwhile in reality allegations of a single instance of hate speech have triggered a statewide audit. Hardly meshes with the picture you attempt to paint. And if there was an argument to be made about proportionate response one wonders which side of proportionate a statewide audit is...

Feel free to provide some evidence for your claim that most Muslims have lots of kids to rort welfare anytime though.

 

[SirRumpole]

Feel free to provide some evidence for your claim that most Muslims have lots of kids to rort welfare anytime though.

My actual statement was this

Most Muslims have a lot of children so they can live on child welfare payments and Family Tax benefits.

Note I didn't say that they do have a lot of children in order to live on benefits.

Most religious types have a lot of children due to their commandments of "go forth and multiply" , including Catholics and Jews, the point I'm making is that the rest of us subsidise this indulgence.

With a deficit of 40bn pa something has to go, and I reckon family tax benefits should be on the list as having children is a choice compared to other things like disability and getting old.

 

[sinner]

Charge one Imam and risk riots on the streets ?

Pictures of NSW Police in 2012 Hyde Park cowering in terror over the prospect of a riot. Oops wait, no this is the photo of them kicking the **** out of a tiny handful of poor, uneducated young males.



Hmm..."poor, uneducated young males" ...that rings a bell...Cronulla..something...Redfern something...





It's almost as if being a marginalised youth with no opportunity has something to do with riots in Sydney, and nothing to do with religion at all! But who knows what to make of photographic historical evidence, it's probably all Islams fault.

 

[sinner]

Note I didn't say that they do have a lot of children in order to live on benefits.

That is exactly what you said, actually.

Nice attempt to weasel out on semantics though! I also like your use of bold highlight to make the weasel attempt more prominent.

 

[SirRumpole]

Anti-Islam activist Geert Wilders' Australian visa 'granted'

Controversial Dutch politician Geert Wilders claims to have had his Australian visa granted, meaning he will be able to travel to Perth in just over a week to launch an Australian anti-Islam party.

The founders of the Australian Liberty Alliance had feared the far-right politician may be unable to attend the launch due to visa delays, but it appears his visa has now been approved.

The party, which is inspired by his own, wants to ban full-face coverings in public spaces and calls for a 10-year moratorium on resident visa applications by people from Islamic countries.

The Immigration Department has been contacted for comment.

More to come.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-...geert-wilders-australian-visa-granted/6839230

 

[luutzu]

Sorry to top you out of your pole position Luutzu but as a white, glass wearing 40y male, I used to be tested for drug/explosive at every check point in Oz airport I was going thru
something like 8 times out of 10 or something like this
last week was most recent;
They must guess I was not born in Oz.....
If I were muslim or non white male I would raise a discrimination fuss!!
actually, this is maybe why I am checked so often, because I will not raise a fuss
and for info, the only time I triggered something was when back from a mine (explosive traces)!!!
I am also a non drug user

Maybe you got a French accent?
Who could trust a Frenchy? haha

It's fine, I didn't raise any fuss. Racial profiling or any profiling is fine at airports. I don't look Asian anyway. Have been told I look Indian or Indonesian... I reckon I look more like Pierce Brosnan but then you know.

 

[luutzu]

I've been pulled up twice at Adelaide this year. Never been stopped before.

I am fair skinned, brown hair, freckles, bit like a grown up Sonny Hammond from Skippy.
Maybe they are trying to not racially profile there.

Must be the car you're driving? Sporty, all souped up?

I was pulled over three times over the years where I knew it wasn't random.

Once I was pulled over on the way home. The cop said they saw me doing a big loop to somewhere and now back, where was I going? Was going to the video shop and hiring some new ones. What's in that plastic bag on your seat there? A kebab.

All through the questioning my bloody put both hands at the top of the steering and make no sudden movement. Not with one cop next to me and the other standing on the other side.

Another time I was on one lane, an uncovered cop car on the other. At the green it sped up, speeding in a 50K zone, I was behind then it suddenly breaks, then breaks again so I overtook it. Got pulled over, then waited some 20 minutes as they check my license, then got fined for "overtaking on the inside"... yea, apparently it's dangerous for overtake on the inside lane.

Another time it wasn't racial... I drove my brother's sport car and ran the yellow. Couldn't stop at that yellow. Got pulled over, half hour of checking, then got fined $550.

An Asian friend of mine was out late near his home. Got picked up and they did a full internal search because he was out late. The dude was in year 11 and beside the baggy pants that was the fashion back then, trust me, not the drug pusher man.


I'm sure all Muslim/Arab parents cannot rest easy whenever their kids are out nowadays. The the random crazy White women on public transports is probably a good day until they get home.

 

[Tisme]

Evidence please! You claim lack of application,

You want to defund the Islamic schools but who actually funds them? Rich Wahhabist Saudis, Qataris, Emiratis, by and large. Our supposed friends in the Arab world. They would be defunded in a second if we had our priorities straight. Instead we appoint them to run the UN Human Rights Council.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...n-secret-deal-over-human-rights-council-place

Is there any evidence that we don't prosecute men who marry off their children? I mean how do you even know about this aside from state prosecutions that make the news? The last set of idiots I heard about this all got done. The father, the supposed husband and the idiotic Imam.

Busted bein' a moron http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wor...ducting-child-marriage-cops-article-1.1610185

Take a look at this to see the extent of child marriage in our country, yet you only seem concerned about the Muslims who do this, instead of being keen to tackle proportionally to volume by country. There's a word for that kind of mentality, that word is bigot.

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/re...rried-every-year/story-fnet09y4-1226987689946

We prosecute all people who disobey any law, it really doesn't matter if it conflicts with your religion or not! I challenge any claim to the contrary to please put up some supporting evidence.

Actually, it'd be good if you could start by simply giving an example of a law which supposedly conflicts with Islam (you know, that umbrella term for many disparate sects and tribes that is not actually the demonic-cult-for-brown-people you're making it out to be), my guess is that anything you find would also conflict with the Talmud or Pentateuch. That's the funny thing about the Koran, if you've read the Bible or Talmud, a bunch of bits are pretty familiar.

You also claim that Centrelink funds the indolent without providing a single shred of evidence. One has to wonder if you have ever been to Centrelink, certainly amongst those I know unlucky enough to be unemployed it was not a walk amongst the roses to get a cent, regardless of their previous economic contribution.

Finally you seem to imply that there is no application of the sedition law...even though as I stated it is broad and vague, easily used by any law enforcement or intelligence agency that has cause to do so. Here's a summary so you can catch up on what those laws entail.

https://www.humanrights.gov.au/human-rights-guide-australias-counter-terrorism-laws#3_5

It seems obvious to me that if there was even a speck of seditious activity, those acting so would be nailed to the wall. Perhaps what you think is seditious is not, not even under Howard era laws passed under the grips of the feverish fear of a decade ago?



When are ya gunna provide some evidence for yer claims.



I stand by my claim and challenge for anyone to deconstruct it: the claim that "most Muslims" are having lots of kids to rort welfare is nothing short of idiotic racism.

As for your comments on the Uighurs, try a read of this to get some on the ground context

http://www.abc.net.au/foreign/content/2014/s4097689.htm

which was preceded by this

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...rogram-on-uighurs-20140930-10nx6q.htm[/SIZE]l

You know and we know you are just arguing for the sake of arguing.

WE the "Australian" people should not be funding nurseries for primitives that we stupidly imported. We should be applying the full weight of the law, regardless of black deep south americans, Saudi Arabia and wot not.... but I don't see any evidence of this happening and if it is we are being deprived of that news.

WE make special laws to take on arse4ole bike clubs and ping anyone with a motorbike riding in pairs, but we haven't got the nads to take, head on, a bunch of trouble makers to task. Instead we sneak around raiding houses after events and we talk about some separate community as if it has it's own autonomy and special compassion rules.

You got weeds in the lawn you can either mow them in, get rid of them or sacrifice the whole lawn for a new one (or better still a no maintenance Greek Lawn).

What's next, Arab-Australians, Chinese-Australians, Anglo-Australians ... it's just pure racism in play

 

[SirRumpole]

Parramatta shooting: 'If you don't like Australia, leave', Muslim leader to tell worshippers

The chairman of a Sydney mosque is expected to tell worshippers that "if you don't like Australia, leave" during his first sermon since a teenage extremist who attended the mosque shot dead a man outside NSW Police headquarters.

Parramatta Mosque chairman Neil El-Kadomi has told Sydney newspapers he will deliver the message during his sermon at Friday prayers this morning.

His comments come as the NSW Opposition called for an urgent inquiry into radicalisation in the state's schools and criticised the Government for being too slow to act on the issue.

Last Friday's shooting of police accountant Curtis Cheng outside NSW Police headquarters in Parramatta has prompted several agencies to investigate how the 15-year-old killer became radicalised by Islamic extremists.

Mr El-Kadomi will reportedly tell today's congregation that Muslims who wish to live in Australia must respect its values.
Do you agree with Neil El-Kadomi? Have your say below.

He also will reportedly say a tiny proportion of the community are giving Muslims a bad name, and that parents need to take more interest in their children's lives to prevent radicalisation.

He is expected to say that anyone seen acting suspiciously at the mosque will be reported to police.

The Parramatta Mosque was searched after Farhad Jabar's attack on police headquarters at Parramatta on Friday.

Police also said some of the people later arrested in relation to the attack were known to attend the mosque.

more at

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-...leave-muslim-leader-tells-worshippers/6839886

Good on him for saying that, it comes down to whether the hard liners will listen.

 

[Tisme]

Parramatta shooting: 'If you don't like Australia, leave', Muslim leader to tell worshippers



Good on him for saying that, it comes down to whether the hard liners will listen.

Yeah but if a non muslim said it, he/she would be a slack jawed, rednecked, homophobic, Anglophile, racist, misogynistic bigot.

Why are the press so wedded to the idea that Muslims should have their own community and own leaders and the demands by them for social vigilantism?

 

[qldfrog]

Maybe you got a French accent? .

Suave charm even without speaking?
Officer was probably jaelous when man or envious when a lady
Anyway, as you see : the look = check has weird consequences
Cheers

 

[SirRumpole]

Yeah but if a non muslim said it, he/she would be a slack jawed, rednecked, homophobic, Anglophile, racist, misogynistic bigot.

Why are the press so wedded to the idea that Muslims should have their own community and own leaders and the demands by them for social vigilantism?

That is the effect of religion, the weak minded being led by their witchdoctors.

 

[noco]

That is the effect of religion, the weak minded being led by their witchdoctors.

Yes, and the Fabians are bit like the religion mentioned, the weak minded being lead by their masters in the UN..