Has Kevin Rudd misled parliament?

Macquack said:

Burns, your are obviously not such a loud mouth in public (or the presence of other people) as you are here on Aussie Stock Forums, because you would only last 2 seconds before someone knocked you out.

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LOL thats the second person(I've seen thats posted here) thats wanted to knock you out Burnsie. Your on a roll

Macquack heated debates are fine, but don't sweat over cyber drama.

MrBurns said:

So you be nice and I'll be nice.

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Good start Burns, or rather MrBurns.

Macquack said:

Good start Burns, or rather MrBurns.

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I would answer that but it would only bump up my post numbers

I have spent too much time on here in the past, I guess I'm not the only one though.

moXJO said:

LOL thats the second person(I've seen thats posted here) thats wanted to knock you out Burnsie. Your on a roll

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Can't answer this with my usual rapier wit as it will only inflame matters.

Non of this teaches me how to make any money with shares, I think I worked out early that it's just too hard and luck plays too bigger part in it.

Uncle Barry, my answers are now clear:

What branch of the labour party do you belong to ? None
What position do you hold ?None
Are you related to the person called KRUDD ?No

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kincella, your statement - which I called a "lie" - is not backed by your posts in this thread. Perhaps you hold a private view that supports your assertion, but otherwise the calibre of your writings here smack of right-leaning politics above all else.

I note that Calliope and several others believe that Labor may have concocted the fake email. Several weeks of questions in Reps from Turnbull suggest that neither Rudd nor Swan had a clue where he was going. Then, when Grech gave evidence last week, it was apparent that Labor was caught napping with damning evidence, albeit pathetically delivered and heavily qualified at the time.

In retrospect, what makes more sense than anything is that Grech's demeanor was predicated on his knowledge that he was giving unreliable testimony as a result pressure from Liberal powerbrokers (including Turnbull himself). I was a little hard on Grech initially, but now I realise that his deliberate uncertainty, and clear statement that what he was saying could be "false", will save him from being accused of misleading the Senate.

Perhaps of more relevance to the Opposition camp is that Grech on 4 June, when he had full knowledge of his actions and the various emails he was directly associated with, declared the process underpinning Grant's representation as having been handled "professionally". In other words, it appears that Grech's evidence changed completely within a fortnight, and after Grech met with Turnbull and Abetz his recollections to the Senate were vague and tainted.

On the other hand, Opposition supporters believe the emails that Swan released actually implicate Swan as having provided "special" treatment to Grant. Swan could have done a Children Overboard or Haneef case and leaked out enough biased information to support his stance until such time as the truth won out. Swan is a lacklustre Minister and is not handling the warm blowtorch as well as he should. That aside, it is probably frustrating for him to constantly say that he did nothing special. He knows his Department did their job better than he now would prefer, but that is not the same as directing his Department to do something special: That he did NOT do.

MrBurns said:

Can't answer this with my uaual rapier wit as it will only inflame matters.
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Maybe I'm just easily amused, but I always have a bit of a giggle when you manage to enrage people enough to post threats.

moXJO said:

Maybe I'm just easily amused, but I always have a bit of a giggle when you manage to enrage people enough to post threats.

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It's a talent that comes with hard work.......

Redrob are you a union member?

Wow...I have been busy working and missed all this.....
this is worth a 10/10

quote from MrBurns...................

Me loud mouth ? what about you you insulting worm, just get off the computer and go back to lowering the quality of life for those you mix with in real life. Today 05:08 PM

ps...I dont believe posters should be allowed to threaten another with physical violence....the post should be removed.....and some time off for the poster, to study 'good blogging manners' for about 2 weeks.....with 3 strikes and your'e out policy

I think I have another brilliant idea....ponder this one..

Costello has until June 30th to nominate for Higgins....like next Tuesday....

....what if...Grech had nothing to do with this at all.....

but another who does not like Turnbull....and knowing both sides of Govt have moles....set this up.....just in time for Timebomb..Turnbull to implode...so Costello would be free to take his place....????

and as they used to say.....keep the b.......s honest

...Timebomb Turnbull was shocked....he seems to have had the most to lose...
but since there have been so many public servants who have been sacked or resigned....because they had a difficult boss, in the past year....anyone of them might have a better reason....to start pulling plugs from the inside, or the outside

Lets face it threatening another poster with physical violence (that didnt happen here btw) is pathetic, in case they hadn't noticed we're on computers

I was thinking more along the lines of cases of cyber bullying etc.....which are viewed by the courts as being just as dangerous to another, as if it was out in the real world...

rederob said:

Swan is a lacklustre Minister and is not handling the warm blowtorch as well as he should. That aside, it is probably frustrating for him to constantly say that he did nothing special. He knows his Department did their job better than he now would prefer, but that is not the same as directing his Department to do something special

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Rudd would dearly like to be rid of Swan. Normally he would admit that Swan misled Parliament and ask for his resignation. But of course he can't do that. Swan has too much on him, with Rudd's complicity in misleading parliament and the sting that he and boy wonder Andrew Charlton worked on Grech

Swan is sitting pretty and Rudd has to settle for a second rate Treasurer.

kincella said:

I was thinking more along the lines of cases of cyber bullying etc.....which are viewed by the courts as being just as dangerous to another, as if it was out in the real world...

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I dont really understand that, if anyone insults me they get it back triple but anyway back on topic -

Swan is sitting pretty and Rudd has to settle for a second rate Treasurer.

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WE have to settle for a second rate Treasurer at a time when we need the best.

MrBurns said:

......if anyone insults me they get it back triple......

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Is someone calls you a disgruntled Fremantle Dockers supporter that's going to be hard to triple.

drsmith said:

Is someone calls you a disgruntled Fremantle Dockers supporter that's going to be hard to triple.

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I think I actually felt my brain twist in my head trying to do just that

MrBurns said:

I think I actually felt my brain twist in my head trying to do just that

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That would require 3 things:
Thinking
Feeling, and a
Brain
My belief is that the 3 strikes rule makes your statement redundant.

rederob said:

That would require 3 things:
Thinking
Feeling, and a
Brain
My belief is that the 3 strikes rule makes your statement redundant.

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What is that smell ???? Oh it's you Rederob, how nice to once again experience your rapier wit

moXJO said:

Maybe I'm just easily amused, but I always have a bit of a giggle when you manage to enrage people enough to post threats.

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Me too, moXJO. Today's exchanges are hilarious.