wayneL
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be aware Pat that Julia is prepared to argue some strange positions -
even when Wayne agrees that he has changed his mind on this, Julia thinks he hasn't.
But Julia, how can 2020 argue these untenable positions of his without ignoring most of the facts?Dear 2020,
I think you will hopefully have understood from Wayne's subsequent comments that once again you are mistaken in your interpretation.
May I please ask you, very politely, to read the posts on which you wish to comment properly before making more silly comments.
Thank you very much.
Julia
One solution is solar power... A real possibility. The way the world is changing we shall certainly have more than enough desert to make it so.Pat.
The exclusive focus on co2 means that all manner of other evils are ignored. I don't agree that co2 "solutions" will solve anything unless the focus is more holistic.
Nuclear power for instance opens up a whole new can of worms. Tidal power generation I read slows down the planet's rotation - This potentially could create real, measurable and devastating climate change in time.
The oceans are simultaneously being used as a tip and a food source; fishing methods are destrying the marine ecosystems. Potentially much more disastrous than anything to do with CC.
I could go on, but as ever, my position is that the IPCC is drawing attention and great mountains of cash away from "real" problems, to feed a noxious gravy train that is designed as a covert commercial endeavour.
Reminds me of the Hungry Jacks quad whopperTo add: Why is no world body concerned about the environmental impact of modern warfare? Splattering DU everywhere, spillage of Crude oil everywhere, possible nuclear fallout if the certifiably insane Medvedev and Bush (or however) start pushing red buttons.
what about habitat destruction so MacD's and Burger King can sell atrocious hamburgers to boguns?
etc etc etc
Real and measurable, but no money in it.
Julia, I thought this was a little strange, It's not like I'm Silas whipping myself, or mankind for that matter... i.e. the insistent, relentless self-flagellation...
Well, if you did get my point, Pat, then that means my metaphorical imagery worked. I'm so glad.Julia, I thought this was a little strange, It's not like I'm Silas whipping myself, or mankind for that matterBut I get your point.
Slowly but surely we'll get there... to an environmental utopia that is. IMO the 'slowly' part could be made a little if not a lot quicker.
I think It's possible, maybe a startrek type future, where we can bring whales back from the past and such and suchEnvironmental utopiaNow there's an oxymoron for you. Is that what the cavemen had?
I think It's possible, maybe a startrek type future, where we can bring whales back from the past and such and such
I love seeing whales when i'm out surfing, I've seen dolphins and penguins too, I live and surf on the Central Coast NSW. Couldn't believe my eye's when I saw the penguins... My brother in law couldn't either... Stoked was the terminology usedBeen out to sea lately? The whales are getting back to pest proportions. With global warming they wont have to swim so far to calve in the warmer waters.
The barrier reef will start to form off our coast in northern NSW as the water warms. The fishing should improve.
Bring it on. It's been too cold here this winter. The surf is bitterly cold today( that is why I'm still at this computer getting square eyes.)
I've been reading the news linking meat to global warming. This has been a hot topic on the net in the past week, so I'm posting some links and ideas on these issues at a new page:
http://lowcarbclimatechange.blogspot.com/
(If you like, please take a look at the links posted there - but let's have a conversation here on this board!)
The UN is afraid of the implications of growing demand for meat, especially beef, in newly affluent development countries. But it seems to me they have it backward - we need to encourage high protein diets for good heath, in the developing world as well as at home. It is the rice production that may be responsible for more methane emissions - but no one talks about alternatives to rice as a means of mitigating climate change, just meat!
Please let me know what you think.
Thank you!
Common sense. I can feed myself from my back garden and have done so in the past with very little bought in.Might have to ask you for a link there as well wayne
Are we talking about the same land - same rainfall etc ?
fair enough I guessCommon sense. I can feed myself from my back garden and have done so in the past with very little bought in.
Just running 1 beast requires far more land.
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