the funny / scary thing is that some on the green brigade would actually advocate a return to living in straw huts and burning brush fires for warmth while eating leaves and berries.
it just goes to show how truly nutty these greenies are.
Well, folks, enjoy your meat eating while you can. I heard a climate change enthusiast this morning advise that cows produce so much greenhouse gas that they are a decided hazard. He thought we should all become vegetarians.
We might as well just all stop breathing. That might save the planet.
the funny / scary thing is that some on the green brigade would actually advocate a return to living in straw huts and burning brush fires for warmth while eating leaves and berries.
it just goes to show how truly nutty these greenies are.
Nuts and greens???
Mmmm-mmm!! Health food!!!
Yummmm!
David Karoly is a Professor of Meteorology at Melbourne University and was a lead author on the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's fourth report.
He says Professor Garnaut's proposed emissions cuts of 10 per cent by 2020 is not enough to minimise the dangerous effects of climate change on Australia and the rest of the world.
"The longer we wait to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, the more carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases will be in the atmosphere, the more climate change we will experience," he told Sabra Lane on ABC Radio's AM program.
"Australia needs to have substantial cuts in greenhouse gas emissions and they need to be cut urgently if we wish to minimise dangerous climate change."
Professor Karoly says Professor Garnaut's approach to cutting Australia's emissions is too conservative and sends the wrong message to the rest of the world about Australia's intentions on climate change.
"It appears ... that he is taking an approach which is politically and economically palatable or acceptable, rather than taking the opportunity which we have perhaps once in this century to take bold action, for Australia to take a leading role in reducing its greenhouse gas emissions," he said.
Dear Prof Karoly,He says Professor Garnaut's proposed emissions cuts of 10 per cent by 2020 is not enough to minimise the dangerous effects of climate change on Australia and the rest of the world.
article said:Professor Karoly says Professor Garnaut's approach to cutting Australia's emissions is too conservative and sends the wrong message to the rest of the world about Australia's intentions on climate change.
You mean you don't care...Dear Karoly,
the rest of the world doesnt care one iota what ausrtralia does in this regard.
You mean you don't care.
regardless of it being a myth??It is sad to see peeps are not taking advantage of this GW fact/myth. As I have posted before it is and excellent opportunity for change.
Regardless of GW, any positive change for the environment will cost everyone shyte loads of money, convenience and time.
so by how much is our ETS is supposed to reduce temperatures by Pat?Mocking every article and the people who want to actually see, and are prepared to sacrifice change is ridiculous.
The future population will one day them for there concern... and action.
We lead by example. Is this an excuse not to change to greener ways?... because others don't give damn? Maybe they do --B--, Perhaps it will work, then we (Australia) will be the example to follow.no pat. i mean the US, China and India dont give a damn. To think our decision to screw our economy in the name of unproven science will entice those countries to follow is absolutely ridiculous.
Thats more than fair enough, change must be done in a sustainable way... The key here is change, not much going by the way of change eh? All because of money... Thats why we don't have electric cars.regardless of it being a myth??
excuse me for being concerned about inflicting an ETS on our economy for absolutely no purpose. im quite concerned that this is indeed the thinking behind many of the "well it cant be a bad thing" arguments,, - when actually it can be quite a bad thing.
EXACTLY!!!just not on the basis of greeny lies nad just not at the expense of our economy.
Not sure, I'm not a scientist.... yet. With 6 yrs and some hard study while working I will beso by how much is our ETS is supposed to reduce temperatures by Pat?
We lead by example. Is this an excuse not to change to greener ways?... because others don't give damn?
EXACTLY!!!I don't think we'll ruin too much, but then again, there's that sacrifice we all must make.
Not sure, I'm not a scientist....
How are we going to make this a better, cleaner, more efficient society if we keep saying we can't afford to?
ok -B- you're proving the point though.http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/09/09/2359058.htm
Dear Prof Karoly and Prof Garnaut
When you say "taking an approach which is politically and economically palatable or acceptable" - are you taking into account those diehards amongst us ....
This thread is similar to the one on Religion. Either you believe or you don't.
However, with the religion thing, the beliefs make no ultimate difference to the economy. But with the religion of climate change fanatics, nothing will make them happy until an ETS is at the level where it completely wrecks the economy.
On pollution, not particularly carbon.Julia
even wayne believes we should act
Well let's reduce CO2. As others have said, the risk is not worth taking by not doing something. I'm a skeptic over the anthropomorphic bit of GW, nevertheless I'm doing all I can reasonably do and still live in a society... much more than those bleating on about it.
My focus is on pollution. By focussing solely on co2, folks are missing the bigger picture of pollution in general. I don't know whether we are heating up the planet, but I know we are raping, pillaging and poisoning it. If we're not careful the planet will not heat up, but will still end up uninhabitable.
A bigger picture is needed IMO.
What is the source of your confusion here, 2020? The quote you have just posted from Wayne echoes his earlier comment where he points out his concern is more with pollution than Co2.post #22 wayne - you wonder why I'm confused with your position on all this ...
You will find heaps of my views have changed over time. I don't stubbornly hold to any position.post #22 wayne - you wonder why I'm confused with your position on all this ...
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