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Global Warming - How Valid and Serious?

What do you think of global warming?

  • There is no reliable evidence that indicates global warming (GW)

    Votes: 8 5.2%
  • There is GW, but the manmade contribution is UNPROVEN (brd),- and we should ignore it

    Votes: 12 7.8%
  • Ditto - but we should act to reduce greenhouse gas effects anyway

    Votes: 46 30.1%
  • There is GW, the manmade contribution is PROVEN (brd), and the matter is not urgent

    Votes: 6 3.9%
  • Ditto but corrective global action is a matter of urgency

    Votes: 79 51.6%
  • Other (plus reasons)

    Votes: 7 4.6%

  • Total voters
    153
What agenda would that be?

A sustainable, peaceful, earth?

oh they pretend to push this agenda and deep down i dont doubt they desire it however inherent among green fanatics is a deep hatred for technology, wealth, and basically all us 'evil' human beings.

And not a drug riddled,

lol. im sure you are aware of the Greens stance on drugs?

wealth driven one?

oh, you are a greeny. money = bad huh? ironic to see you on a stock forum though.

Alas, I did vote green.

i believe you.
 


B its never too late to join us, leave the dark side, the denier extremist fringe groups are being swept aside to be ruthlessly judged by history, maybe you could join us for a meditation circle and out of body experience where we hop on one foot and giggle like kookaburas while sharing a peace pipe? Maybe we could also partake in the ancient symbolic ritual of Burning 100 dollar bills and smashing iPods, at the end the grand master will reappear from the never world and cleanse you of your "evils"?


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Hi guys, ive come across some interesting reading for you.

Brief highlights of the US Senate report featuring over 400 international scientists:



http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.SenateReport#report

comments and opinions are welcome and encouraged as usual!
 
got nothing 2020?

thats not surprising,. i didnt expect many of the GW alarmists to want to respond. after all theyre the ones banging on about a scientific 'consensus'.

PS: sorry to disappoint you but i didnt vote as you suggested.
 
A report from the US senate with their own clear cut agenda of pandering to their corporate masters just doesnt cut it sorry.
 
A report from the US senate with their own clear cut agenda of pandering to their corporate masters just doesnt cut it sorry.

i assumed you would ignore the 400 scientists opinions numbercruncher.

its difficult to consider something may not be quite as it seems when youre so blindly committed to it i suppose.
 
i assumed you would ignore the 400 scientists opinions numbercruncher.

its difficult to consider something may not be quite as it seems when youre so blindly committed to it i suppose.


Ahh these teh same 400 you where telling us about that place there GW thermometers beside Airconditioners and Hot asphalt ?
 
Ahh these teh same 400 you where telling us about that place there GW thermometers beside Airconditioners and Hot asphalt ?

lol. i never said anything of the sort.

i note again with amusement you have nothing to say on the matter.

i dont doubt that many such as yourself blindly follow the GW myth because its easier and because the media forces such rubbish down our throats daily. dismissing all else without contemplation tends to render your opinions less valid.
 
But is anyone acting on it? Not from what I see.

What are you doing 20?

lol
ok - I'm no longer taking flash photos because the battery need charging

the other thing I've done is help to vote out the Howard Govt

The big thing Wayne is to get the world using power sytems other than fossil fuel .

You walking to your local pub is pissing in the windpower m8
 
It's OK to try and trivialize what I've decided to do (actually, taking into account your verbosity on the subject, it's a gross hypocrisy) but collectively, everybody walking to the local (plus everything else people can do as individuals, including campaigning for alternative fuels) can make a massive difference.

Join us doers 2020, and leave the likes of Al Bore to their talk and their monumental double standards.

From what I can gather, so far all your hot air is only adding to GW.
 
getting personal now

I could say ditto , but I won;t
You're a mod after all
you know best
 
--B-- said:
Brief highlights of the US Senate report featuring over 400 international scientists:

Just thought i would clarify some points regarding your report. First it was released by the environmental and public works comittee minority office which is the republican division of the commitee. The majority office is run by the democrats and no such report was filed by them. Also i was unable to locate the names of the senators that put this report together so if you can provide that for srutiny it would be appreciated.

The minority office is run by a senator james inhofe. I checked his background and he is considered and extremely conservative republican with a long history of denying climate change.
Inhofe has a history of opposing environmental groups and global warming initiatives
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=James_M._Inhofe#Campaign_contributions

He also appears to be a big beneficiary of oil and gas interests.

Boxer replaced Oklahoma Sen. James Inhofe, a Republican who has received $572,000 from the oil and gas industry since President Bush took office””more than all but three other members of Congress. .

http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/347/oil-politics.html

Not saying the report is not valid but merely pointing out the interests behind it for the purposes of balance.
 
getting personal now

I could say ditto , but I won;t
You're a mod after all
you know best
was a bit rushed when I sent that one
just that I was busy sending a container of manufactured goods to China.

but rest assured, I walked rather than drove whenever I could.
 
wayneL said:
Join us doers 2020, and leave the likes of Al Bore to their talk and their monumental double standards.

Wayne i don't understand the criticisms you have towards al gore and other GW activists. You seem to take on a position that everyone who is concerned about GW needs to "walk to the pub". Sure things like this set a good example and hopefully over time culture and behaviour will change. But expecting all individuals to take the resposibilty is unrealistic. People are concerned but many have too much else on their plate to really concentrate on doing much themselves about it. Hence why people would rather allow legislators to do it for them. That way they are doing their bit and don't have to think about it along the way. Why don't people do anything about GW individually, the same reason people don't quit smoking. Its psychological and its ingrained in us through evolution.

As for al gore you obviously don't have a high oppinion of him but i hope you can agree that he has done more for GW awareness then any other person in the world. His movie probably single handedly made GW an issue in australia and probably led to more agressive environmental policy in this country then otherwise would have been. Thats surely more then just doing his bit regardless of his personal life.
 
Many may not realise but Dubbya is a closet greeny, he knows what the energy starved future holds


Check out his diggs ....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prairie_Chapel_Ranch
 

oh ffs.

i suppose you hold the same reservations of any pro-GW reports you read? or is it only the ones who cast doubt on the GW debate that are possible open to bias?

you pick out one guy with a link to the EVIL oil and cite this as a reason to doubt the content of the report.

the fact is 400 credible scientists have put forward these views and have raised valid point which many (including yourself it seems) wil happily ignore because it doesnt fit in with the hype and catastrophe you all cheer about.
 
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