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Gillard for PM?

Now of course some of those people are just mouthing off no doubt, but when people like myself, my wife and my father in law abandon labour then you can bet your bottom dollar that there are oddles of people in the same position as I.

:eek:

Don't get vested in politics with the inlaws! ;)
 
I think you will find a lot of hardcore labor supporters won't vote Rudd next election. A lot of insulation installers are mighty pi$$ed. So are their friends and family. I know guys that have voted labor from legal age that are changing their vote.

Agree about the pi$$ed of part but hard core labor cannot ever vote for the Abbott over Rudd never ever not while the queen of clubs is in play after the election.
 
I think you will find a lot of hardcore labor supporters won't vote Rudd next election. A lot of insulation installers are mighty pi$$ed. So are their friends and family. I know guys that have voted labor from legal age that are changing their vote.
Yes, I think Mr Rudd has seriously under-estimated the level of anger from the insulation industry, especially after he fronted up to them a few months ago outside parliament, little notebook in hand, writing down their names, and assuring them that he 'got it', and would 'fix it'.

Just another of Rudd's symbolic gestures, followed up by a great big empty space.

These people are going out of business through no fault of their own.
 
Just on a side note the budget reply was a shocker by any standard team work crikey and Bishops comments today on pastports and our spy services a complete disgrace.

Its hilarious watching the negative right wing ala USA Republican tactics to run up the opinion polls then when ever the Liberals actually have to do some thing they completely botch it like complete mugs.
 
Agree about the pi$$ed of part but hard core labor cannot ever vote for the Abbott over Rudd never ever not while the queen of clubs is in play after the election.

Any person that is that hard core that he/she would never ever change their vote just ain't thinking. That's just pure tribalism. Dumb.
 
Compared to Rudd she's the reincarnation of Ghandi.

The only remotely successful Government programs as far as I can tell are MySchool and the introduction of a national curriculum. These both occurred under her direction.
Everything else has been a complete shambles - if I had to choose a Labour leader, she'd be my choice.


*She's also a Western Bulldogs supporter :D

Yep, I think she has done a good job there.

I also think she is a good team player, has stood by Rudd whether she agreed or not, and she always keeps Abbott speechless in any debate.

Just my opinion.
 
Gillard has all of Rudd's ineptness, but without the temper. Combet will be labors golden child in years to come imo. Not that I would want any of them mind you.
I'm turned off the libs as well. They have provided no incentive to vote for them so far. As bad a job as I thought he was doing previous, Turnbull may have to be the answer. Abbott is just not up to the job.
 
There was mention of the Greens controlling the senate in an earlier post. I'd be very careful of who their preferences are going to, we could end up with Labor controlling the senate.

Either way, I won't be voting Green based on their taxation policy along with a lot of their other policies as well:

The Australian Greens will:

Taxation
22.reduce inequities in the current personal tax system by:

1.reducing tax breaks for high income earners;
2.removing Fringe Benefits Tax concessions which promote increased use of motor vehicles;
3.removing the concessional arrangements for Capital Gains Tax;
4.only allowing losses from an investment to be offset against income from the same investment;
5.abolishing the 30% Private Health Insurance Rebate in order to increase funding for public hospitals;
6.taxing family trusts in the same way as companies; and
7.eliminating high rates of effective marginal taxation for those on welfare benefits.
8.introducing a tax on extreme wealth applied to the wealthiest 5% of people.

28.return the company tax rate to 33% and broaden the company tax base by reducing tax concessions
 
Compared to Rudd she's the reincarnation of Ghandi.

The only remotely successful Government programs as far as I can tell are MySchool and the introduction of a national curriculum. These both occurred under her direction.
Everything else has been a complete shambles - if I had to choose a Labour leader, she'd be my choice.


*She's also a Western Bulldogs supporter :D
But how would she provide leadership for a free society with free markets to facilitate the free society?
 
no freakin way..

She is floating on a whim and just looks good cause Krudd is just a fool.

A right wing opinionated but conviction-less crowd pleaser that is out for the glory before the good of the country..

dont go there people... dont be fooled..
 
no freakin way..

She is floating on a whim and just looks good cause Krudd is just a fool.

A right wing opinionated but conviction-less crowd pleaser that is out for the glory before the good of the country..

dont go there people... dont be fooled..

Right wing? Comrade Gillard is right wing? :confused::confused:
 
I must admit im starting to warm to Julia....as the months go on its starting to make good political sense to dump Kev at some point in the near future and try to lumber him with most of the blame for all the backflips and poor policy outcomes etc, and sort of start over with Julia and a few new front bencher's.
 
So cynical,

I think throw them both out Rudd and Gillard. the worst government in the history of Australia. She is in it up to her ears think pink batts, The education building revolution = waste of billions of dollars. They both must go.
 
Gillard for PM? She already is.

Just look at the policies coming out of the 'politburo'. Class warfare, gender warfare. The politics of envy. Capitalism must be attacked. Borrow heavily to fund the social agenda, and run up the national debt.

Economically, how is that working out for european democratic socialism at the moment.

Das vydanya, comrade.
 
I must admit im starting to warm to Julia....as the months go on its starting to make good political sense to dump Kev at some point in the near future and try to lumber him with most of the blame for all the backflips and poor policy outcomes etc, and sort of start over with Julia and a few new front bencher's.
So even you are disillusioned by Kev, So Cynical!
Do you really think there's any possibility of Labor dumping Kev before the election? Personally, I can't see it happening, though agree it would be a good idea.
If Julia were to be PM, who would be Deputy? And the other principal positions?
Wayne Swan to remain as Treasurer? Lindsay Tanner still there?
Stephen Smith?
Mr Smith is the only one I think has done a good job. As Foreign Minister he has been calm and measured.
 
A GROUP of key federal Labor MPs have privately revealed they would back Julia Gillard to take over the leadership.

Ms Gillard yesterday continued to laugh off suggestions of a challenge to Kevin Rudd before the election, despite claims by one Labor MP she was being urged to "tap the PM on the shoulder" as early as this week.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...ve-on-kevin-rudd/story-e6freuy9-1225879183671

The cracks are widening.
 
This is the result of a poll on the Daily Telegraph, from the link provided by TS.

Thanks for voting!
Would you prefer Julia Gillard to lead Labor rather than Kevin Rudd?

* Yes 21.35% (417 votes)
* No 8.29% (162 votes)
* I don't want either 70.35% (1374 votes)

Total votes: 1953

I don't know anything about the demographics of the Daily Telegraph's reader base. From those who do, is the above surprising?

I'd not have been surprised to see it in "The Australian" but would have imagined the DT's readership would be a bit more pro-Labor.
 
My barber was severely incapacitated by gout recently and I was forced to go to a Unisex outfit called Sneepz, or Kutz, or some such bastardisation of the English language.

Unused as I am to sitting with ten and one half females having my locks clipped, I was surprised and embarrassed by the conversations I was forced to overhear.

Periods, adultery, gynaecological surgery and the sexual attributes of TV Show hosts made me make a hasty exit with a three rather than my usual two.

Now , I believe that Julia Gillard's partner, is a hairdresser.

It concerns me greatly that if she becomes PM, all our state secrets may be added to the collage of inconsequential verbage in these dens of gossip and innuendo.

May I request that if she is elevated in the next few weeks to the Prime Ministership, that in the interests of national security, he be forced to fortwith resign his commission as a crimper.

gg
 
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