Value Collector
Have courage, and be kind.
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You have to be able to prove something is harmful before it can be banned.
I think it is up to the gay community who are not biologically equipped to have children without outside assistance to prove that their version of parenting produces the same our better outcomes for children as a well balanced natural family would produce.
However what I object to is children being used as part of a social experiment by a minority group to try and prove that they can do things that nature has not equipped them to do.
The first priority of scientific experiments that involve human beings is to get volunteers for the study. As it's impossible to get informed consent from the children involved, then this is an experiment that should not be attempted in the first place imo.
You have to be able to prove something is harmful before it can be banned.
So maybe we can test some new drugs on you without your consent to see if they are harmful or not.
As for the kids who have to cop the teasing and the silence for the rest of their lives, well they have no choice but form another community subset and demand some kind of special recognition .... just wait and see.
Another "Stolen Generation" ?
They will have to stay in line, because the next logical step is already in train:
scientists are already having success in taking a body cell from one mammal species and fusing it to an enucleated egg from another. The cloned embryos are then implanted into the uterus of the donor species.
So, given how we are going with the whole life is cheap thing, we (hopefully not me) should be seeing third world breeder women carry a rebirthed version of "Tiddles" the cat, probably some surrogate sheep carrying a hipster couple's fashion accessory child, .... the potential is endless ..... and anyone who protests will be a xenophobe or hateful bigot.
Hate to be the Indian women who gets the elephant egg.
So maybe we can test some new drugs on you without your consent to see if they are harmful or not.
Drugs are a special case.
Yes, they might actually do some good.
There is a science fiction book of short stories called Dangerous Visions edited by Harlan Ellison in the 80s I think which has women producing all sorts of items with their wombs. All coming true.
Yes, they might actually do some good.
You have to be able to prove something is harmful before you can restrict people's rights.
We know that a certain percentage of drugs are going to turn out harmful, having bad side effects or not have the positive effects the makers hope, that's already been proven over the years, hence we have a rule that before we unleash them on the market, they must prove that they are safe.
Do you see the difference, we already know that drugs in a lot of cases turn out harmful, so they are restricted until proven safe.
You have no evidence that confirms gay parenting is harmful, so it doesn't diserve to be restricted, unless you can prove that gay parenting causes harm.
You have no evidence that confirms gay parenting is harmful, so it doesn't diserve to be restricted, unless you can prove that gay parenting causes harm.
tell that to the thousands of women in Africa who are dying from AIDS due to their children's father poking his into another man. Tell the kids how lucky they are to have a homosexually active father.
People have a right not to be experimented on without their consent, whether harm can be proven or not.
Testimonials from people bought up this way who would have preferred not to have been is evidence that there may be harm in the process, therefore it should not proceed, and should not be endorsed or promoted by society.
It's no more of an experiment than any other form of up bringing
Firstly, aids in Africa is spread mostly by heterosexuals, if a man brings home aids to his wife, he is far more likely to have got it from a female prostitute.
Secondly, if you ended the stigma, and laws against homosexuality in those countries gay men wouldn't need to hide in fake relationships.
It is an experiment because gays are not biologically or genetically equipped to have children without some sort of fabrication, they just want to pretend that they are "just like anyone else", which in the case of parenting they definitely are not.
Oh so when a man pokes another man in the anus it's hetrosexual because he then sticks the same penis into a woman's vagina, or into his many wives of his polygynous harem? Many of those men force themselves on their wives because it is their right to do so.
There are serodiscordant and discordant relationships, whatever, males are by far and away the greater risk of giving aids to a woman through natural method intercourse than a woman giving it to a male. You start putting the old fella up someone's ar5e and there is a real risk of pushing gunk pneumatically up the penis and viola you're dead and the world should feel sorry for you.
There must be a lot of your prostitutes in Africa to infect upto 30% of some countries sexually active populations.
You need to talk to some of those social workers who go over and try to help those women and they will tell you what the men get into.
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