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Not like a Catholic to be dogmatic!
Especially when he has nothing to lose. I recall he was more sympathetic before the 2013 election when he was trying to present "the softer side" of his personality.
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Especially when he has nothing to lose. I recall he was more sympathetic before the 2013 election when he was trying to present "the softer side" of his personality.
Tony needs to be careful he doesn't make the poll about him. That is one that he will surely lose.
Making statements about religious freedom and freedom of speech being under attack will play well with the Araldited "no" camp, but it won't do anything to win over the centre.
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I'm not sure he's trying to win anyone over now. I think he's realised that his Parliamentary days are getting shorter and he's revealing his real face, and there's nothing wrong with that, people need to know where politicians really stand, like it or not.
It wouldn't surprise me if Abbott defects to the Bernadi Party.
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My point is that if he feels so strongly about maintaining the status quo, he should keep his mouth shut. Anyone as deeply unpopular as he is in the electorate can not do his side any favours by being the head cheerleader.
Then again, he's always seemed pretty tone deaf to public opinion. He knighted you, FFS.
I don't think he'll defect to a minor party, he likes being in a party that has influence over the national agenda too much.
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You really think he's trying to do his side (the Liberal Party in general) any favours ?
I reckon that he now thinks his side are the ultra right of the Party not Turnbull & co.
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His side is the "no" side, not the Liberal Party.
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Ah OK. Well the trouble for his side is that I can't see anyone who is deeply popular presenting the no case.
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Tony Abbott.... putting the NO back into the Noalition
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Plebiscite rejected by Senate, postal vote to be held.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-09/politics-live-august-9/8788216
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-09/politics-live-august-9/8788216
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Ah OK. Well the trouble for his side is that I can't see anyone who is deeply popular presenting the no case.
Lol. Probably worth pointing out that in 2009, Abbott was openly discussing the idea of bringing back at-fault divorces. The same guy who went in to bat over and over for George Pell. That frames his worldview pretty well.
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No doubt he's a religious fanatic, but he's got a right to present a case against SSM and whatever else he feels strongly about. He's also got to produce evidence to back up what he says otherwise he will be rightly ignored.
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Maybe all policies should be put to a popular vote like this.
Who wants corporate and the uber rich to pay higher taxes, tick the boxes on a ballot that's on its way to you. Who wants no-toll roads... Who wants serious jobs and investment programmes that build clean/renewable infrastructures for that future where our fossil will run out and/or kill all of us.
On an issue of equality and justice for a minority of its citizens, these spineless politicians let the masses decide (if they want to). Lucky for "the gays" most Australians are more open and progressive on the idea of them being equal and have rights.
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Whether we agree or not, like it or not, the fact of the matter is that people of the same sex will live together as a married couple despite the lack of legislative recognition and our opinions. Our laws finally recognized heterosexual defacto relationships so it is just plain common sense to recognize "SSM".
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No wonder they dumped him. I have seen primary school children articulate a argument better than Abbott.
Waffling on about religious freedoms and freedom of speech just makes him look like an irrelevant *******.
Also, saying a vote of NO is a vote against political correctness. What a load of tripe. Abbott thinks the electorate is dumbing than what he is.
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Lyle Shelton does a much better job.
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I don't agree with his views on this subject at all but I'll give him credit for stating clearly to the public what he stands for and not leaving any doubts.
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Tony is certainly enjoying raising the heat on SSM.
I suspect he is looking to the USA where recent voting turnout on the issue resulted in 30 states constitutionally amending the law to ban same-sex marriage; 12 other states prohibit same-sex marriage via statute. I think North Carolina is the latest to buck the supreme court ruling.
I suspect he is looking to the USA where recent voting turnout on the issue resulted in 30 states constitutionally amending the law to ban same-sex marriage; 12 other states prohibit same-sex marriage via statute. I think North Carolina is the latest to buck the supreme court ruling.
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What do you mean?
In his megalomaniac mind, He Is The Centre - of the Galaxy even.
And coming to think of it as a scientist, I can agree with one aspect of that:
There is a humongous Black Hole at the Centre of the Milky Way.
