Gay Marriage

[Tink]

Agree, Tisme.

How has this brainwashing occurred, that it gets to the point where a mother and a father is removed as words used?
Husband and wife becomes partner.

Equality is the new word where I am seeing the destruction of the english language, destruction of the family unit, the list goes on, imv.

Thanks McLovin, for your input on Marriage (in the UN) being a man and a woman, and good on you guys that came in here talking about your fathers, and the input they have had in your life -- positives.
A mother and a father is important in a child's life, and BOTH contribute much, both different, yet both valuable.

I am disgusted on the constant attack on the family by the left, and that goes on the family, and our forefathers, where most were in a war.
Men and women that sacrificed a lot of their lives in the past.

This is an attack on our history and our future, and they are part of each other, in my view.

It is natural to want to know your history, and they will go searching, no matter what barriers they put in place.

The people who care most about children, all else being equal, are their biological parents. Trying to degrade this relationship into some sort of wider sociological caring system is attacking the traditional family system and basically going against nature.

Certainly there is a wider society responsibility to care for all children, but it involves giving parents the resources to care for their children and not attempting turn them into homogenous blobs in the mass of society.

The nuclear family should be encouraged, not undermined as some of the rainbow agenda people want to do.

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[Tisme]

Agree, Tisme.

How has this brainwashing occurred, that it gets to the point where a mother and a father is removed as words used?
Husband and wife becomes partner.

Equality is the new word where I am seeing the destruction of the english language, destruction of the family unit, the list goes on, imv.

Thanks McLovin, for your input on Marriage (in the UN) being a man and a woman, and good on you guys that came in here talking about your fathers, and the input they have had in your life -- positives.
A mother and a father is important in a child's life, and BOTH contribute much, both different, yet both valuable.

I am disgusted on the constant attack on the family by the left, and that goes on the family, and our forefathers, where most were in a war.
Men and women that sacrificed a lot of their lives in the past.

This is an attack on our history and our future, and they are part of each other, in my view.

It is natural to want to know your history, and they will go searching, no matter what barriers they put in place.



+1

When Trump gets in it will be a whole new ball game of back to the future as the bible belt takes charge.

 

[luutzu]

When Trump gets in it will be a whole new ball game of back to the future as the bible belt takes charge.

I know an Irish guy with a similar sense of humour Tisme. Dam he might actually be a brother in law one day.

 

[luutzu]

Agree, Tisme.

How has this brainwashing occurred, that it gets to the point where a mother and a father is removed as words used?
Husband and wife becomes partner.

Equality is the new word where I am seeing the destruction of the english language, destruction of the family unit, the list goes on, imv.

Thanks McLovin, for your input on Marriage (in the UN) being a man and a woman, and good on you guys that came in here talking about your fathers, and the input they have had in your life -- positives.
A mother and a father is important in a child's life, and BOTH contribute much, both different, yet both valuable.

I am disgusted on the constant attack on the family by the left, and that goes on the family, and our forefathers, where most were in a war.
Men and women that sacrificed a lot of their lives in the past.

This is an attack on our history and our future, and they are part of each other, in my view.

It is natural to want to know your history, and they will go searching, no matter what barriers they put in place.



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I don't think the Left or the gays are attacking anyone's family value Tink. They just thought that since it's so cool, can they please also have some.

Speaking of forefathers, soldiers, statesmen, pioneers, kids and society having to love and protect them... there are more than a few gays among those too. There are gay kids, there are gay soldiers, a lot of gay (and spineless) politicians. I mean, the entire British parliament that funded the Australian experiment way back when... most are quite gay too.

Serious though, I know a fair number of Christians... they aren't that much into the Bible's anti-gay bits. So not sure if it's a Christian value or not. So you know, you can be a good Christian and not dislike God's other creation. Maybe all these "Christian value" stuff about homosexuals come about because a few them preachers are closeted gays who want to prove otherwise by beating up on the thing.

 

[Junior]

I think ignorance, intolerance, hate and inequality are ugly words.

Anything which causes us to think someone is superior or more important than someone else on the basis of gender, race, religious belief, sexuality etc. is an ugly concept. It tears us apart and divides us rather than bringing people closer together.

We should be moving forward as a human race, not backwards based on outdated and archaic views of our differences.

 

[Wysiwyg]

I think ignorance, intolerance, hate and inequality are ugly words.

Anything which causes us to think someone is superior or more important than someone else on the basis of gender, race, religious belief, sexuality etc. is an ugly concept. It tears us apart and divides us rather than bringing people closer together.

We should be moving forward as a human race, not backwards based on outdated and archaic views of our differences.

Gender, race, religious belief, sexuality etc. are our differences. Females are not physically as strong as males, one race has cultural differences to other races, each religion has its own ideologies often far different to each other or the majority of society. Sexuality, well homosexuality is getting more air time nowadays in a push to make it acceptable in society. Like a familiarity thing where if one is exposed to something for long enough then it becomes accepted.

We can all be accepting of each others differences but try converting billions of people from every walk of life to be more accepting of each others differences. Its a nice thought (to be more accepting) but differences have been the source of human conflict from recorded time. It is a self sustaining process (life).

 

[Junior]

try converting billions of people from every walk of life to be more accepting of each others differences

This is a nice goal to have. In most modern societies, great progress has been made in this area.

 

[Value Collector]

. Females are not physically as strong as males,

I dare you to get in the ring with a female MMA fighter and say that, lol.

That's the thing with generalisations in a lot of cases they give you the wrong answer.

In all genders, races etc, there is enough diversity, that general rules are useless.

eg, saying Men are stronger than women might be true if you reduced the genders down to their averages, but if you make some rule based on that, then you will have a lot of men at the weak end and women at the strong end who are not being treated fairly.

same with any rule based on race.

 

[Wysiwyg]

That's the thing with generalisations in a lot of cases they give you the wrong answer.

Not in this case. Have a look at the physique of women compared to men. It is visually evident and practically observable. By natural design. More so in Australia with so many fat azzes living a life with little effort required.

 

[Tisme]

I dare you to get in the ring with a female MMA fighter and say that, lol.

That's the thing with generalisations in a lot of cases they give you the wrong answer.

In all genders, races etc, there is enough diversity, that general rules are useless.

eg, saying Men are stronger than women might be true if you reduced the genders down to their averages, but if you make some rule based on that, then you will have a lot of men at the weak end and women at the strong end who are not being treated fairly.

same with any rule based on race.

That's why sports are generally gender segregated......splitting hairs again VC

 

[noco]

What does the Green/Labor coalition hope to gain from this "SAFE SCHOOLS PROGRAM"?

It is corrupting the minds of young people in their early teens and should be abandoned.

I also cannot understand why the Turnbull Government continues to do nothing about it.

It is morally corrupt to say the least.


http://www.acl.org.au/professor_cal...d118&utm_source=CreateSend&utm_term=Read more

 

[Value Collector]

Not in this case. Have a look at the physique of women compared to men. It is visually evident and practically observable. By natural design. More so in Australia with so many fat azzes living a life with little effort required.

My point is, the strongest 10% of women are probably stronger than the weakest 10% of men, maybe more.

So any rule designed to separate people based on strength that simply rules out women, is going to unfairly rule out a large group of people that should be consider eliglable.

Let's say it could be proven than on average asians were 25% more diligent and intelligent than whites, Could we simply use that fact alone to decide who gets accepted to university courses? Off course not, because there would still be a large chunk of whites at the high end that are better candidates than the lower end of asians, you cannot make the call on race alone, you need more info.

 

[SirRumpole]

What does the Green/Labor coalition hope to gain from this "SAFE SCHOOLS PROGRAM"?

It is corrupting the minds of young people in their early teens and should be abandoned.

I also cannot understand why the Turnbull Government continues to do nothing about it.

It is morally corrupt to say the least.


http://www.acl.org.au/professor_cal...d118&utm_source=CreateSend&utm_term=Read more

There are many reasons why kids are bullied at school. Because they are fat, skinny, wear glasses, have red hair or just don't go along with the crowd.

The focus on LGBTI is overkill, the insinuation seems to be that gender identity is a prime cause of bullying when it probably is only a very small proportion.

A safe schools program is a good idea, but the message should be not to bully anyone for any reason. All this gender theory stuff should be kicked out of the syllabus altogether.

 

[Value Collector]

That's why sports are generally gender segregated......splitting hairs again VC

Sports is one thing, but we used to ban women from the army, because men were stronger, well I can tell you I have seen a few very capable female soldiers and a lot of incompetent male bags of ****. If you make your decision based on sex or race you are going to over look a lot of talent,

 

[noco]

A safe schools program is a good idea, but the message should be not to bully anyone for any reason. All this gender theory stuff should be kicked out of the syllabus altogether.

The socialist are using this bullying crap as a shadow for their true agenda and that is to break down the morals of young children and this is something that has been going on with communism for decades.

I have a book in my possession on communism given to me by my father many years ago and it clearly spells out what their aim was decades ago.

I know you will come back at me with some sort of homophobic smart remark but that does not worry me...I know what I am talking about.

 

[SirRumpole]

The socialist are using this bullying crap as a shadow for their true agenda and that is to break down the morals of young children and this is something that has been going on with communism for decades.

I have a book in my possession on communism given to me by my father many years ago and it clearly spells out what their aim was decades ago.

I know you will come back at me with some sort of homophobic smart remark but that does not worry me...I know what I am talking about.

This is nothing to do with communism, it's about a few gays trying to make children think that gays are the same as everyone else. In some ways they are, in others they are not. As usual you try and turn anything into a political debate. Give it a rest for a while eh ?

 

[Wysiwyg]

My point is, the strongest 10% of women are probably stronger than the weakest 10% of men, maybe more.

So any rule designed to separate people based on strength that simply rules out women, is going to unfairly rule out a large group of people that should be consider eliglable.

If you make your decision based on sex or race you are going to over look a lot of talent,

I have present time experience with the new idea in our company for a greater percentage (percentage in itself denotes job eligibility not necessary) of females in the workforce. This is great and I am all for it but the idjits up above have forgotten to employ for suitability, commitment and/or experience. Specifically apprenticeships, which are fewer nowadays as automation takes jobs, which are given to females who are obviously not committed, have to be carried for lack of strength and lack aptitude. While year 11/12 male students doing pre-vocational training and work experience get a not successful letter. That is my point too.

 

[noco]

This is nothing to do with communism, it's about a few gays trying to make children think that gays are the same as everyone else. In some ways they are, in others they are not. As usual you try and turn anything into a political debate. Give it a rest for a while eh ?

Rumpy, I am sorry to say you are so naive about that safe school program......It has nothing to do with school bullying and plenty to do with leading young kids into moral danger.

If this has not been a political debate, you could have fooled me mate......It has been a stupid hot political debate since its conception when in fact there should have been double the discussion on how to repair the budget from the discrepancy left by Labor....But as per usual this is just another Labor diversion from the real problems facing this country and Bill Shorten will keep it on the boil as long as he can.

Don't come back and tell me the Liberal National party have had 3 years to fix it when you know full well the Green/Labor coalition have blocked billions of dollars in savings the Government have tried to use....And don't forget also there has been a down turn in mining commodities and we are still saddled with a billion dollars a week interest on the Labor Party wasted money plus all the welfare cheques sent to many Muslims with 4 wives and 17 kids who have not worked a day in their lives since arriving in Australia..

 

[noco]

Rumpy, I am sorry to say you are so naive about that safe school program......It has nothing to do with school bullying and plenty to do with leading young kids into moral danger.

If this has not been a political debate, you could have fooled me mate......It has been a stupid hot political debate since its conception when in fact there should have been double the discussion on how to repair the budget from the discrepancy left by Labor....But as per usual this is just another Labor diversion from the real problems facing this country and Bill Shorten will keep it on the boil as long as he can.

Don't come back and tell me the Liberal National party have had 3 years to fix it when you know full well the Green/Labor coalition have blocked billions of dollars in savings the Government have tried to use....And don't forget also there has been a down turn in mining commodities and we are still saddled with a billion dollars a week interest on the Labor Party wasted money plus all the welfare cheques sent to many Muslims with 4 wives and 17 kids who have not worked a day in their lives since arriving in Australia..

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...s/news-story/7e1ee74bd8b682f188333828ce5e374e

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-24/bradley-marxism-and-safe-schools/7272764

Now then Rumpy what id you say about the Safe Schools program having nothing to do with comminusim.

 

[Tisme]

Sports is one thing, but we used to ban women from the army, because men were stronger, well I can tell you I have seen a few very capable female soldiers and a lot of incompetent male bags of ****. If you make your decision based on sex or race you are going to over look a lot of talent,

Once again you are cherry picking.

As technology replaces brute force we will obviously see changes, perhaps not even gender biased, but ageist, agility, ocular, etc. I'm not sure if legislation will change to discriminate in favour of the new discriminated, but based on the social engineering that has been patently so successful with the Y gens and MIllenials, I would say so.