Are you hinting that paedophiles will be next? That is sick.
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Are you hinting that paedophiles will be next? That is sick.
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If we don't trust ourselves then we might as well do away with jury trials, because obviously we can't trust our peers.
So , the question still stands, what are you afraid of ?
A plebiscite is an utter waste of time and money. Think about how many teachers and nurses could be employed with $160M.
As to the legislation: Every parliamentarian and his dog knows what the population wants. As they're supposed to be representing the Australian people, let's tell them "Get on with doing your job. Put the changes through the mill and make Marriage gender-neutral. End of story!"
Put forward as a private members bill, it could all be finished by the end of the week, and you can concentrate on more pressing tasks. Like giving our school leavers an opportunity to get a worthwhile apprenticeship; tap into the knowledge that's available in the older generation, many of whom feel too young to be turfed out into early retirement; stop looking at the next election and make plans for the long-term sustainability of Australian Life.
There is a vetting process for potential Jury, people with pre existing bias, and people who they think aren't capable of rational decisions based on facts are weeded out, the jury is also often shielded from all the public misconceptions that fly around in the media, So you analogy is bunk.
To some that same revulsion extends further up the moral ladder to homosexuality,.
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If the vote for the plebiscite goes down in Parliament, and the matter does not arise in Parliament again for three years, what have you gained ?
Children have human rights too, but they seem to be forgotten in the equation.
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Children have human rights too,
See how perverse your argument is, and you do not even see it
you do not recognise democracy and assume that your self righteous ideas(whatever they may be, whether I share them or not) are right;
300 y ago, people like you were arguing blacks were animals and not human and so that slavery was a victory for human condition;
More recently, your argument is used on abortion:it is murder and evil, and whatever a vote might say, it remains abhorent and the murderers must be punished/executed;
You put yourself in the same bandwagon as the lunatic christians or muslim fundamentalists.
May I find this ironic?
Either you respect democracy or you do not; if you do not, that is your choice but do not take the high ground stance, you are no better than a Hitler, Pinochet,Poutine or Staline.....
Children have human rights too, but they seem to be forgotten in the equation.
That lamb must be the child.
So what is the benefit of same sex marriage in society?
What is the definition of marriage?
that may be better taking the 10% chance we would lose and then not have the government bring it up for another 30 years.
If we're to run a gov't with these kind of democracy, let's put all future free trade deals to the public; how about taxation policies; how about industry incentives and tax cuts? The people would get more bang for their buck if they could decide on those issues.
How true is that.
There's just way too much good that $160M could be put to than some stupid opinion polling this kind of "democracy" stunt is pretending to care about.
Seems to me the only reason the plebs get to decide on this issue is because the leadership in Canberra got no spine. Can't stand up to the conservative and religious base of theirs... don't want to alienate most of the population either... So they do what most lawyers and "leaders" do and pass that buck onto the other people.
If we're to run a gov't with these kind of democracy, let's put all future free trade deals to the public; how about taxation policies; how about industry incentives and tax cuts? The people would get more bang for their buck if they could decide on those issues.
People are happy for the government to make all sorts of sweeping legislation, even fine with them declaring war on other nations, but suddenly they want a vote on whether it is right to extend the government recognition of marriages into the marriages between couples of the same sex.
So we are happy are we ? I don't think so. If governments make decisions we don't like then we vote them out.
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yes, but you don't request a plebiscite before war or tax changes.
Why for a simple change in marriage legislation?
why trust the government on those big issues, but refuse to trust on the small thing?
The plebiscite was the idea of the LNP, not the public and they should go through with it.
If they offer a plebiscite on other matters, that would be good, because I think the silent majority is being supressed on a number of matters.
The current way of holding a plebiscite is grossly expensive. some sort of Internet poll would give a good idea what people really think about issues, and the politicians would be silly to ignore them.
Why do gays have to get married in the first place?
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Who cares how they live so long as it does not affect the way I live.
Why do gays have to get married in the first place?
So marriage is a human right, what about my human right not to pay taxes to supports causes I do not support? Sending army in ME or other cause where I would actually be in line with some of the leftist sides?an issue involving human rights
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