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Everyone has valid points but wasted far too much time attacking each other. The same things could have been said in a friendly and diplimatic fashion.

Yes a lot of information can be found in books and using free resources but you have to have the time and the inclination to do the research and formulate your own strategies from this. Often these can only be validated and refined by applying them directly to markets which can take time (and money).

money tree has offered his own personal strategies which he has formulated over the years and most of which he has used himself. Some will be very interesting, others not so interesting as just like a music band making a new album, you have to try and make up the numbers to sell the product.

For me personally I think a course like this would be very usefull. I have traded stocks, I know options well in theory but I don't have the time to put in the hours required to turn the knowledge into an edge. money tree may provide this.

Although my offer to pay half price to review this course was rejected I think the free offer is a good idea. money tree would like to generate interest out honest reviews and this is a good business strategy and shows he may have something to offer. How many of those scam sites out there offer there product for free? none because they want to sell as much as possible before the audience cottons on.

So why don't I buy the course? At this stage there is not enough excitment being generated about the course contents to make me take the leap at the full price. This may change after the free reviews come back. But right now I would be willing to pay half of the usual price to find out for my self (and tell others if required).

BTW money tree, I was dissapointed that you took the bait with those attacking posts. It is always best to ignore unconstructive comments - and you will find their authors will just go away without having to place them on your ignore list. :)
 
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hi zozzy222 :)

You have made some valid points.

But imo what reflects poorly on money tree is that although he invites negative comments about his course (as per his earlier post in this thread) then after I acknowledged his course notes may be useful to some I then said I had no interest in his free offer because I saw he got things wrong in other posts in these forums too often for my liking after which he replies with a childish, immature personal attack not only on me but to others who disagreed with him.

My view is that if he talks to his clients or potential clients in the same way he childishly responds to some posts in here then no wonder he has to resort to giving his course away for free.

Imo you can't have it both ways by inviting negative comments and then responding with personal attacks while at the same time failing in any way whatsoever proving the negative comments are wrong in any way.

But for me personally, it's all water off a duck's back and I just continue to call things as I see them regardless. ;)

cheers

bullmarket :)
 
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Hello Julia,

I've got several possible answers:

1. Hang in there and you’ll get there.
2. Your posts look more mature than you are
3. Another M - error
4. Condition 3 excluded all other contitions

(Sorry for possible hardship, but thought this might be funny to some)
 
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Bobby said:
Hello Richkid,

Just some advice, first stick the word Moderator up top next to your name, you have my respect already, let other members know who you are.

Allow a bit more riposte between members, its entertaining ! Makes the site a better place. :)

Regards Bob.

Thanks Bob, but I'll stay as a plain clothers 'cop' for now, the majority of the ASF force are in uniform. 'RichKid' is on the list of moderators (Forum Leaders") anyhow for anyone who wants to check. (Also I like my tag a lot better- so much in so few words! Everyone should have a plan)

I agree that some general banter is good, even if it gets a bit colourful at times but in the past these things have got way out of hand, I'd rather stifle a bit of the more personal exchanges than let it degenerate. It's not always easy getting the right balance but I'll do my best. This is what makes each forum different, so hopefully the majority of posters here approve of the general standard but I do welcome your feedback and look forward to your posts.
 
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I would like to say that Moneytree has done a good thing and he deserves some credit for it regardless of the intent or strings attached.

Good work MT!

Richkid,

My comment before was a joke, as in "where" if not on this forum.
 
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Snake Pliskin said:
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Richkid,
My comment before was a joke, as in "where" if not on this forum.

No probs snake, I wasn't actually referring to your comment; I appreciate the humour.
 
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Bah Humbug.... does anyone in this forum stay on topic???

Six pages of garbage and still no FREE COURSE?!? Geez Louise...

Anyway, why don't you guys lay off MoneyTree?

Is this a case of the "tall popy syndrome" that Aussies seem to have?
 
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TraderPro said:
Bah Humbug.... does anyone in this forum stay on topic???

Six pages of garbage and still no FREE COURSE?!? Geez Louise...

Anyway, why don't you guys lay off MoneyTree?

Is this a case of the "tall popy syndrome" that Aussies seem to have?


It was announced a couple of pages back! Thats why it got off topic. And anyway, why is your garbage better than ours :rolleyes:
 
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This post is to record on the forum that I have decided not to do Moneytree's course.

Having been advised by Moneytree via PM that he "had run out of the current version of the course" and he would therefore be sending me the previous version I simply don't feel that what is being offered now matches what I understood to be the original offer.

He has said that the older version lacks aspects which are included in the current version but - no problem - the missing content can be accessed via the website.

This is not what was presented in the original offer .

Thank you for the opportunity, Moneytree, but I'm not comfortable with how you have done this.

Julia
 
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for your information Julia, I update the course every few weeks. I never stated that what I was giving away was guaranteed to be up to the minute.

The only change to this version was that I pasted some comments from the forum. You are acting as if I sold you windows XP but put Windows 95 in the box.

Its amazing how some people whine when they are not paying a cent!

Also, Richkid refused to supply his details, insisting on being anonymous. He wanted me to send the course to Joe, who would forward it (without reading it......yeah right). The only reason someone would want to be anonymous is if they are up to no good.
 
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your honour........................................

I rest my case ;)

cheers

bullmarket :)
 
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money tree said:
refused to supply his details
I'm happy to give my details, if your happy to take a risk on having me give a fair report.

I don't have a "reputation" like others here who have applied. :)

Cheers SB
 
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MT,

If you are willing to reopen the offer, I would like to apply.

I will report my opinion as impartially as I can. (However, I have only been trading for 3 years, so my experience is limited). Anyone is welcome to know who I am as a real person - just ask privately. (Will not post my real email address in public to avoid spam).

I am happy to review the first version of the course.

I would have to admit that I was a little concerned from the suggestion from your website to sell calls on a stock (eg. NAB) if you would like to own it for yield but think that it is currently too expensive. But this is a personal trading bias of mine - a difference of style. My style is currently the opposite of positive gearing - jump in for a quick buck where I believe anomalies in market sentiment will give me one.

I also think you have been given a bit of a hard time in general - you do offer interesting material from time to time, but every slight F'kUp is jumped apon.
But in short, I am interested, but am a little short on time, and may not have sufficient experience to comment on some of your strategies.

Also, if I actually use the strategies in your course, I will pay you the full amount for the course. [Unfortunately you will have to take my word here, and don't forget I am paying an accountant to set up my trading buisiness].

Regards,
Mark.
 
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Hmm that's a bit strange having two of the three picked not wanting to (or not being able to) participate.

Although I would still like to participate in the course I do not expect to be given a chance since I am such an unknown in here.

Moneytree if would like to have someone new to different trading strategies give a review of (and attempt) the ones in your course then I'd be more than happy to.
However if you want a more experienced trader to review it then by all means do not give it me. :)

I was looking forward to the more experienced traders giving a review of the course but I think I'd be happy with anyone giving their unbiased review.

Cheers,
Quinny
 
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money tree said:
for your information Julia, I update the course every few weeks. I never stated that what I was giving away was guaranteed to be up to the minute.

The only change to this version was that I pasted some comments from the forum. You are acting as if I sold you windows XP but put Windows 95 in the box.

Its amazing how some people whine when they are not paying a cent!

Also, Richkid refused to supply his details, insisting on being anonymous. He wanted me to send the course to Joe, who would forward it (without reading it......yeah right). The only reason someone would want to be anonymous is if they are up to no good.
Money Tree,
Yes, that's right, I don't feel comfortable dealing with you now and although a review would have been helpful to me and the members it is not something that is crucial considering the issues. I tried to resolve the issues via pm but it hasn't worked.

As you don't trust Joe (who, for the record, enjoys my utmost respect- you may see this as bias) I told you to seal it and to place your signature across the seals. I also told you that as a regular poster and moderator I felt more comfortable doing it anonymously, you had nothing to lose as knowing my details wont help you track copies unless you had some sophisticated tracking systems and I assured you that I wouldn't copy it. Needless to say some of your past altercations on this site didn't help your cause either, although I have always tried to give you the benefit of any doubts I had about you. It may just be a personality clash between you and me.

I feel more comfortable dealing with other 'educators' that I know by reputation and experience. I'm sorry that this hasn't worked out, some of the members may have benefited from a review (or they may have not).

The only educators or tipsters I can recommend atm are Nick Radge, Daryl Guppy, Alan Hull and Fat Prophets. There are plenty of books written by those and others (eg Chris Tate) too which are like 'mini-courses'. I have mentioned them before on ASF. I am not an expert so remember that this is just my opinion.
 
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RichKid said:
Money Tree,
Yes, that's right, I don't feel comfortable dealing with you now

It always sounded dodgy to me, hence my post stating I was not interested at all.

It seems it was a good P.R. gimmick and not much more.

We are not stupid on here, being new to trading / investing doesn't mean we are ripe for picking.It is also amazing how new members suddenly appeared thinking they had a chance of getting the "holy grail" for free.
 
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Julia said:
This post is to record on the forum that I have decided not to do Moneytree's course.

Having been advised by Moneytree via PM that he "had run out of the current version of the course" and he would therefore be sending me the previous version I simply don't feel that what is being offered now matches what I understood to be the original offer.

He has said that the older version lacks aspects which are included in the current version but - no problem - the missing content can be accessed via the website.

This is not what was presented in the original offer .

Thank you for the opportunity, Moneytree, but I'm not comfortable with how you have done this.

Julia
Hello Julia,

I think you made the right choice, you were polite to Moneytree in stating your reasons why you declined his gratuitous offer.

Bob.
 
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markrmau said:
I would have to admit that I was a little concerned from the suggestion from your website to sell calls on a stock (eg. NAB) if you would like to own it for yield but think that it is currently too expensive.

One of the rules I state for utilising the "10% discount" strategy is to first check with the 19 second rule. This high yield protects the stock from major tankage to an extent. I doubt any bank fits the criteria in this market.

Back in 2003 I was the biggest bank bull around. They were yielding 8%. Some members of the propertyinvesting.com forum may remember ;)
 
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