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Forex trading - what are the negatives?

yea you're completely right. not too many people buy stocks with leverage but nearly everyone trade currencies with high leverage, that's why I mentioned it

Almost everyone uses leverage, many just don't know it. Currency leverage is high, but as someone else said, it needs to be because the moves are far smaller in percentage terms than stocks.
 
Anyone used UFX Bank? I have received a few phone calls but they sound international. I have previously used oanda.com and am seriously considering using them instead.
 
Almost everyone uses leverage, many just don't know it. Currency leverage is high, but as someone else said, it needs to be because the moves are far smaller in percentage terms than stocks.

If you are talking about movements from high to low as a percentage then yes but intraday no.
FX trades 24 hours with full liquidity stocks trade 6 hours.
Most FX players trade the top 6 currency pairs.
I would be interested to see the top 6 stocks as a percentage movement.

Who has that mapping ???
 
Its an emotional rollacoaster! I suffer from trading tourrettes frequently.

For a minute I thought someone had recorded my webcam! :D

 
If you are talking about movements from high to low as a percentage then yes but intraday no.
FX trades 24 hours with full liquidity stocks trade 6 hours.
Most FX players trade the top 6 currency pairs.
I would be interested to see the top 6 stocks as a percentage movement.

Who has that mapping ???

I said as a percentage, and it's not a rule. Example, the aud has rallied 50%, similar to the stock market.

Its an emotional rollacoaster! I suffer from trading tourrettes frequently.

I can't help but laugh at both wins and losses. Experienced enough of both not to care anymore :).
 
Sorry but you have his completely ar$e about. Markets that are moved for whatever reason are the perfect markets to trade.

The high liquidity makes FX Sh!te as far as movements. That's why you nuts have to use such high leverage.

Great point TH, this is exactly why I find myself only trading the GBP/JPY
 
Mr J how about taking less time in needing to argue and more time in thinking. For starters I never said you should be in futs. FFS!!!

But your thin thinking and post above is perfect example,

Leverage amplification is not Linear.

Well then, perhaps you care to tell us what instrument you are comparing Forex, to.
 
Great point TH, this is exactly why I find myself only trading the GBP/JPY

Doesn't make sense to me. I risk $100, it doesn't matter whether it is on the eur/usd, or on the gbp/jpy with it's larger range. It's all adjusted. TH went on a crusade, but I don't see the point he was making. A market is a market. He mentioned risk wasn't linear, but it's trading range and how size is adjusted to suit the trading range that matters. Feel free to prove me wrong with numbers.
 
Doesn't make sense to me. I risk $100, it doesn't matter whether it is on the eur/usd, or on the gbp/jpy with it's larger range. It's all adjusted. TH went on a crusade, but I don't see the point he was making. A market is a market. He mentioned risk wasn't linear, but it's trading range and how size is adjusted to suit the trading range that matters. Feel free to prove me wrong with numbers.

today tonight I made 58500 JPY in 6 trades. If I had sat on the eur/usd I would have made about half of that in USD. ( sixth I closed to bloody early!)

when you trade a 1min chart with low TP targets the higher the range the better.

On top of that the GBP/JPY has deeper drives. were a euro trade may reverse with not getting to my tp area the G/J will tail into it allowing me to get out.

makes a massive difference to my return. I know this cuz I started on the eur/usd then went to cable with USD/JPY, then to G/J with U/J now only focus on the G/J

There not the same market at all, they're very different. I take it you have not spent a lot of time on the JPY pairs... or down at 1min with them....

cheers
 
That is a pearler of a post, if you don't mind me saying so (I'm sure you do)
Of course coming from an expert on pearler's:D

I agree with TH on this,

after spending months on the u/j and the cable, they just don't deliver in a consistent basis like the G/J does. It's personal preference guys, I am not sitting on a time frame above 1min so volatility matters to me. With out it I am dead in the water, also 4 hours a day is all I am interested in spending glued to a screen.

I run into the same arguments in Forex Factory all the time. we all trade different ways in different times. there's no right way only your way.

good piping!
 
Doesn't make sense to me. I risk $100, it doesn't matter whether it is on the eur/usd, or on the gbp/jpy with it's larger range. It's all adjusted. TH went on a crusade, but I don't see the point he was making. A market is a market. He mentioned risk wasn't linear, but it's trading range and how size is adjusted to suit the trading range that matters. Feel free to prove me wrong with numbers.

your post has been a help thank you.

the euro actually suits a new Idea I have!

Cheers!
 
Overit I just watched that video clip at least 10 times and I was in stitches. That guy is a damn good actor.
 
- Market is open 24hrs and is very volatile, meaning not much sleep if you wanna watch short term positions

This seems to be the big one to me. There are pro traders who have alert systems on their mobiles, pagers, etc, to be kept informed of movements on their positions at any time. My response is: Hell, no! Too much effort. Too little sleep. Too much intrusion into life. Like working in Saudi Arabia, it's something I would have considered doing for a limited time in my 20's.
 
This seems to be the big one to me. There are pro traders who have alert systems on their mobiles, pagers, etc, to be kept informed of movements on their positions at any time. My response is: Hell, no! Too much effort. Too little sleep. Too much intrusion into life. Like working in Saudi Arabia, it's something I would have considered doing for a limited time in my 20's.

That's why i limit my trading to a section of the day. I trade a 4 hour block.... trying to trade 24/7 leads to other problems.
 
There not the same market at all, they're very different. I take it you have not spent a lot of time on the JPY pairs... or down at 1min with them...

No, I usually trade the 4hr or slower these days, and don't have much experience scalping forex. You said that you would have made half trading the E/U, but is that trading the same size?
 
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