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Sorry to hear the news of your misfortune with Felix Resources stock. Some were fortunate to buy in 1979 at 55 cents or 38 cents in 2003, not much consolation I know, so many are still happy with the performance.as it has done ever since I bought into this wonderful piece of crap... dooooooooooooooooooown 15% today... mutherf^&*er... this stock has obliterated my portfolio... 6 months salary gone just on this pig in 3 weeks... ouch ouch ouch...
tend to agree with noirua wish i had more loot to buy in now dont have to sell bvecause never have and never will buy on margin is an excellent company biggest danger for me is that sale will take place below $17.80 that i bought at would prefer no sale to that dont have the readies to average down either. Can take an optonmistic view as over the years I have taken more out of market than i have ever put in only do this for fun and a bit of pocket money dont think im good enough to majke aliving at it. Always suspicious that the combination of margin borrowing and short selling would come back to bite those who did it.Unfortunatly we are all getting collateral damage
Hi fawkner, The Northern Ireland Government is due to look at the mining license situation near Ballymoney at the latter end of 2009. There was a lot of opposition supported by the, now ruling DUC. The opposition group have been given charity status and are well organized.Have held Meekatharra/Auiron/Felix since 1990 when Ballymoney, Northern Ireland was all the rage. Now that coal mines in the UK are becoming a viable consideration again, what value does Felix put on their interests there, or have they virtually "written off" lignite? It seemed once to be a valuable proposition.
Hi Quillan, If you look back on many of my past posts you will see I remained in 70% to 80% cash and US bonds. That cash % rose with the collapse in coal stocks.When Flannery made his announcement 2 weeks ago saying he hoped to report further within 2 weeks, the share price was $19. Is it illegal for a Party in discussions to deal in the target shares?
My point is, the shares have been dumped in that period. Suppose a Party, or some other interest in collusion, sold 5m shares short? This halved the share price. The bidder comes back and says, "The $25 we were negotiating is no longer on the table. Now it's got to be $15". They could probably buy those shares back now, and the price would still not be above $15. But if the deal was then agreed by the Directors, the bidder would have saved $10 on the subsequent purchase of around 190 million shares.It wouldn't matter if they didn't buy them back until after they had acquired the company. It wouldn't cost them more than the agreed bid price
Of academic interest, how many of us would have sold out prior to the possible bid talks, had there been no possible takeover, purely on the grounds of the worsening economic condition.?
I reckon most of us were only hanging on for a bid to be announced. It has cost us half the value of our shareholding.
This is one for Noirura's fertile brain. We are waiting !!
Tensd to agree with you Noirua. Good returns till June. Then we have to wait for real economy to recover could be my guess two to four years. Bit of talk about mkt at or near the bottom at the moment I dont think so the hedge funds probalyt still have alot of redemptions to cover over the next three months and the only way they can do that is by selling. My guess is we mays ee the bottom first quarter 2009 and the shares such as felix will bounce along the bottom for at least one more quarter before slowly rising. We still have excellenta ssets which will eventually be in demand again
Date: 26/9/2008
Author: Jamie Freed
Source: The Sydney Morning Herald --- Page: 21
Australian-listed coal mining group Felix Resources has received strong backingfrom the New South Wales (NSW) Government. It will retrospectively change thestate's Mining Act to negate a decision by the NSW Court of Appeal that hadbeen unfavourable for Felix. Rival Xstrata had sought to prevent Felix fromoperating a mine on land adjacent to its own at Mudgee, but the law change meansthe Moolarben thermal coal project, worth $A405m, can proceed. The issue hadbeen whether Xstrata was bound by a 28-day deadline for objections, which it letpass due to a potential merger with Felix at the time
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,,24472567-16222,00.html
AUSTRALIAN coal exporters of every type are enjoying a double-whammy windfall from export prices that has seen their gross revenue rise by more than 150 per cent since the start of 2008.
Both thermal coal and coking coal producers have found themselves with exploding margins thanks to a mixture of sharply increased long-term contract prices, signed within the last month and backdated to April 1, and the sharp drop in the value of our dollar to around the US70c level in recent days.
"Everyone's smiling," said Colin Randall, editor of the Hunter Valley Coal Report email newsletter and a long-time coal watcher.
He said that even though the spot price for steaming coal, used in power stations, had dropped from around $US190 to $US130 in recent weeks, prices of almost every type of steaming coal were at historic highs because of revised contract prices and the recent drop in the dollar.
Mr Randall said annual price negotiations with the Japanese power utilities, which lifted US dollar-denominated coal export contract prices by more than 100 per cent in many cases, had begun when our dollar was close to parity and concluded only "a couple of weeks ago" when our dollar was dropping sharply.
About 70 per cent of Hunter Valley coal is bought by Japanese power utilities on contract.
Coal price numbers from Royal Bank of Canada Capital markets, adjusted to Australian dollar equivalents, show the price received for steaming coal delivered to ships at Newcastle "free on board" has jumped from around $65 a tonne at the start of this year for some types to around $178 now, and even at spot prices, supposedly battered by the financial crisis, they are getting around $157.
"The loudest noise in Newcastle is 'ka-ching, ka-ching' as the coal producers check their revenue numbers," Mr Randall said.
Assuming a cash cost of production of around $50 a tonne, the producers' gross margin has jumped from around $15 to almost $128 now, an increase of exponential scale.
The windfall story is even stronger in Queensland in hard coking coal, despite the higher cost of production, conservatively estimated at $100 a tonne, because some Bowen Basin mines are underground and all are further from the coast.
Hard coking coal is top of the range and is only used in steelmaking, which has been widely touted as heading for a major drop-off as steel demand eases.
But Queensland producers have seen their contract price jump from around $112 a tonne at the end of last year to about $428 a tonne, an all-time high and an increase of about 280 per cent in 10 months. Those prices are guaranteed, in US dollars, until the end of March 2009.
There are very few spot sales of hard coking coal because steelworks regard supply as critical and the market is illiquid. Again, the price has slipped, but only from $US400 a tonne, reportedly for one cargo, back to $US365.
Converted to Australian dollars at today's rates, that supposedly lower price is a nosebleed $521 a tonne.
Reuters have reported that the original talks with several parties have in fact failed. New talks are now taking place with a few other parties.I think that in a market like this deals take a lot longer than expected but they can still get done. I also think that FLX is motivated to sell at the right price and they want to make sure they sell their life's work - FLX at the best price.
It sounds like the auction is continuing. It also sounds like the original offers may not have been good enough so they're talking to other potential buyers. The alternative explanation is that the original buyers have made a decent offer and FLX is just making sure that there isn't something even better out there.
What does everyone make of the announcement?
Do you think this means a deal is more or less likely?
I'm really interested in other people's thoughts...
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